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<blockquote data-quote="Neemo" data-source="post: 954496" data-attributes="member: 201892"><p>This post is my stance. I'm not a believer in fat shaming, but I'm equally averse to obesity apologeticism - we need to "get real" and accept difficult truths.</p><p></p><p>The chicken and egg analogy sums up the opposing viewpoints extremely well;</p><p></p><p><em>Genetics > Insulin Resistance > Increased body/liver fat = Type 2 diabetes.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><strong>or</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Consumption of (excess) "Carbs" > Increase in body fat > Fatty Liver > Insulin Resistance = Type 2 Diabetes.</em></p><p></p><p>I'm a firm believer that the data doesn't lie. That is to say, it's an incontrovertible truth that the inexorable increase in the prevalence of type 2, globally, can be attributed to a convergence of factors;</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sedentary lifestyles</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ubiquity of carbohydrate dense/processed foods</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Saturated fat being demonised in the 70's, consequently leading to the introduction of high levels of sucrose/fructose into food manufacturing.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Contradictory/misleading food advice and nutritional labels; placing emphasis on calories as opposed to nutrition.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Yes</strong>, genetics is also an important part of the equation, however exclude the preceeding points, and it becomes academic.</li> </ul><p>Confirmation bias, unfortunately, clouds objectivity. "Slim" type 2s may seem paradoxical, however it's a question of semantics, you don't necessarily have to conform to this 'contemporary notion'(I.e: xxxl) of obesity to have high levels of bodyfat/fatty liver. So this trump card of 1 in 5 type 2s is irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>A few words of wisdom from Socrates/Hippocrates to conclude;</p><p></p><p>"Thou shouldst eat to live; not live to eat" Socrates</p><p></p><p>"Letfood be thy medicine and medicine be thy food"</p><p>Hippocrates</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neemo, post: 954496, member: 201892"] This post is my stance. I'm not a believer in fat shaming, but I'm equally averse to obesity apologeticism - we need to "get real" and accept difficult truths. The chicken and egg analogy sums up the opposing viewpoints extremely well; [I]Genetics > Insulin Resistance > Increased body/liver fat = Type 2 diabetes. [B]or[/B] Consumption of (excess) "Carbs" > Increase in body fat > Fatty Liver > Insulin Resistance = Type 2 Diabetes.[/I] I'm a firm believer that the data doesn't lie. That is to say, it's an incontrovertible truth that the inexorable increase in the prevalence of type 2, globally, can be attributed to a convergence of factors; [LIST] [*]Sedentary lifestyles [*]Ubiquity of carbohydrate dense/processed foods [*]Saturated fat being demonised in the 70's, consequently leading to the introduction of high levels of sucrose/fructose into food manufacturing. [*]Contradictory/misleading food advice and nutritional labels; placing emphasis on calories as opposed to nutrition. [*][B]Yes[/B], genetics is also an important part of the equation, however exclude the preceeding points, and it becomes academic. [/LIST] Confirmation bias, unfortunately, clouds objectivity. "Slim" type 2s may seem paradoxical, however it's a question of semantics, you don't necessarily have to conform to this 'contemporary notion'(I.e: xxxl) of obesity to have high levels of bodyfat/fatty liver. So this trump card of 1 in 5 type 2s is irrelevant. A few words of wisdom from Socrates/Hippocrates to conclude; "Thou shouldst eat to live; not live to eat" Socrates "Letfood be thy medicine and medicine be thy food" Hippocrates [/QUOTE]
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