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<blockquote data-quote="Fleegle" data-source="post: 1572332" data-attributes="member: 402985"><p>Thanks [USER=219467]@bulkbiker[/USER] - no improvement yet I am sorry to say - but to be honest I was having to go so low carb and I had tried fasting and all sorts that I will see this out and report honestly for people to read. Probably my impatience. My own opinion is I am concluding that I have had this much much longer than I had thought and think I will be one of those stuck at 10g carbs a day for life. Which quite frankly really depresses me but there you are. And perhaps as a result over a longer period all will end well I don't know.</p><p></p><p>Now I know you know this because you have posted correcting me. The ND does not have to be shakes at all (so no spikes) - a number of interviews with Prof T say's it does not matter what food you use (frustratingly after buying all those shakes I have seen the videos myself now). It also says you need to diet for 8 weeks with a max of 800 calories a day which I do not think precludes fasting, IM fasting nor ultra low carb / keto - vegan or anything else. I also don't think that four meals a day is mandatory.</p><p></p><p>So whilst mostly everything you said was not only very accurate but extremely well put - for the purposes of getting the latest data out there - wanted to put a different slant on both the shake thing and the 4 meal a day thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fleegle, post: 1572332, member: 402985"] Thanks [USER=219467]@bulkbiker[/USER] - no improvement yet I am sorry to say - but to be honest I was having to go so low carb and I had tried fasting and all sorts that I will see this out and report honestly for people to read. Probably my impatience. My own opinion is I am concluding that I have had this much much longer than I had thought and think I will be one of those stuck at 10g carbs a day for life. Which quite frankly really depresses me but there you are. And perhaps as a result over a longer period all will end well I don't know. Now I know you know this because you have posted correcting me. The ND does not have to be shakes at all (so no spikes) - a number of interviews with Prof T say's it does not matter what food you use (frustratingly after buying all those shakes I have seen the videos myself now). It also says you need to diet for 8 weeks with a max of 800 calories a day which I do not think precludes fasting, IM fasting nor ultra low carb / keto - vegan or anything else. I also don't think that four meals a day is mandatory. So whilst mostly everything you said was not only very accurate but extremely well put - for the purposes of getting the latest data out there - wanted to put a different slant on both the shake thing and the 4 meal a day thing. [/QUOTE]
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