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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 1928314" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Been thinking some more about liver-fat (and pancreas-fat) stripping, and the 'SIRD' state. Well, <em>my</em> SIRD-state.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">After thinking about the math (2.5 kg per month on a VLCD) and figuring out that another 5 kg could possibly do the trick re <em>really healthy</em>-normalising BGs (via cutting out/down gluconeogenesis, which is my sick fat-celled FFA/insulin/glucose downfall). And try and stay being a lean (yet muscley) older lady? Good grief. ('Normal' is easier - I promise you!) But of course - how hard that 'last' 'extra' 5 kg would be to lose. I may be able to get a much lower HBA1c from this VLCD, immediately post-diet, but I doubt it will stay there. (Because I have been there/here before.) I am of course hoping it will be low 40s at least, or getting there. It would be great if it stays around there.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">That's the sick fat-cell theory at any rate. If the beta-cell death in the pancreas theory is the correct one - I am screwed, forever T2D-wise. But my answer to the later one is - if my beta cells are permanently damaged - how then am I creating/spurting out, still, lots of insulin? As indicated by my C-peptide result, which is high end normal if I low-carb enough, too high if I don't keep a lid on that. Well, I am going with the sick fat cell theory. And the bariatric surgery success rate, as in folks get normal BGs even before weight loss, pointing to the importance of those two incretin hormones in BG/insulin etc regulation (GIP and GLP-1 - the latter being the one that you want to be activating apparently, as opposed to the upper intestinal GIP.) (The upper intestine is the part that gets cut out in bariatric surgery, therefore deactivating GIP, and redirecting that stage of digestion to GLP-1 which is the healthier non-frankenfood bodily preference, if my understanding of the procedure and nutritional science is correct.)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I have warned poor long-suffering yet patient and supportive Herr Svea that it looks like I will try and do the 4-month VLCD some time in the future, if my HBA1c starts creeping up again, which it could very well do. Assuming it has gone down! (How can it not have gone down....my BGs during these weeks have been great, well, good.) (It takes 10 years for fat cells to completely be replaced. I have six long years to go - if that theory is indeed correct!) Bearing in mind, due to an experiment that went the wrong way (silly me!), my HBA1c did not creep, but leapt up! With adding carbs, even in relatively widely spaced increments, I thought. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I reassured him that the I will not re-enter space in a number three spaceship any time soon! (These diets of course affect those folks around one, whether it be workmates or housemates and friends, or all of the above.) Maybe another three years? Depending on what my HBA1c does (in reflecting the health or ill health of my poor ol organs and tissue). Or in four years? She says, wondering about what <em>four </em>whole months of this extreme diet regime would be like. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Egads.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 1928314, member: 150927"] [FONT=Arial]Been thinking some more about liver-fat (and pancreas-fat) stripping, and the 'SIRD' state. Well, [I]my[/I] SIRD-state. After thinking about the math (2.5 kg per month on a VLCD) and figuring out that another 5 kg could possibly do the trick re [I]really healthy[/I]-normalising BGs (via cutting out/down gluconeogenesis, which is my sick fat-celled FFA/insulin/glucose downfall). And try and stay being a lean (yet muscley) older lady? Good grief. ('Normal' is easier - I promise you!) But of course - how hard that 'last' 'extra' 5 kg would be to lose. I may be able to get a much lower HBA1c from this VLCD, immediately post-diet, but I doubt it will stay there. (Because I have been there/here before.) I am of course hoping it will be low 40s at least, or getting there. It would be great if it stays around there. That's the sick fat-cell theory at any rate. If the beta-cell death in the pancreas theory is the correct one - I am screwed, forever T2D-wise. But my answer to the later one is - if my beta cells are permanently damaged - how then am I creating/spurting out, still, lots of insulin? As indicated by my C-peptide result, which is high end normal if I low-carb enough, too high if I don't keep a lid on that. Well, I am going with the sick fat cell theory. And the bariatric surgery success rate, as in folks get normal BGs even before weight loss, pointing to the importance of those two incretin hormones in BG/insulin etc regulation (GIP and GLP-1 - the latter being the one that you want to be activating apparently, as opposed to the upper intestinal GIP.) (The upper intestine is the part that gets cut out in bariatric surgery, therefore deactivating GIP, and redirecting that stage of digestion to GLP-1 which is the healthier non-frankenfood bodily preference, if my understanding of the procedure and nutritional science is correct.) I have warned poor long-suffering yet patient and supportive Herr Svea that it looks like I will try and do the 4-month VLCD some time in the future, if my HBA1c starts creeping up again, which it could very well do. Assuming it has gone down! (How can it not have gone down....my BGs during these weeks have been great, well, good.) (It takes 10 years for fat cells to completely be replaced. I have six long years to go - if that theory is indeed correct!) Bearing in mind, due to an experiment that went the wrong way (silly me!), my HBA1c did not creep, but leapt up! With adding carbs, even in relatively widely spaced increments, I thought. I reassured him that the I will not re-enter space in a number three spaceship any time soon! (These diets of course affect those folks around one, whether it be workmates or housemates and friends, or all of the above.) Maybe another three years? Depending on what my HBA1c does (in reflecting the health or ill health of my poor ol organs and tissue). Or in four years? She says, wondering about what [I]four [/I]whole months of this extreme diet regime would be like. Egads.[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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