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just looked at the website and forum today. Got the dreaded news from the doc this morning, will be confirmed next monday.

I guess, like most newbies to Diabetes, i am finding the vast quantity of info and conflicting info mind blowing.

Im sure it will get sorted in my head.

i have two concerns, medical costs and the effect on my mental state taking on this new development.

cheers


Chris
 
Hi Chris, welcome to the forum, you're among friends here! Where are you from? If you are from the UK and you are prescribed meds to treat your diabetes you can apply for a medical exemption certificate so all prescriptions are free. That includes your eye test.

All of us have been in the same boat as you, trying to get our heads around this new life state, but many of us have found that this has been the kick up the bum we needed to lose weight, get fit, and sort our lives out. You have this opportunity too! Good luck!
 
Hi Fraddycat,

Thanks ver much for your warm welcome and info.

I am indeed in the UK. I wasnt sure if diabetes was on the list of exemptions, or at least if all types would be.

I will certainly talk to the doc on monday about applying, she seems very good, attentive, enthusiastic and willing to engage in conversation.

cheers


Chris
 
Glad you have a good doctor Chris, it helps! Hopefully soon Daisy will be along to post the info that is given to new members about sorting your diet. Like I said before, you may need to make some big changes but they will definitely make you feel better.
 
I look forwards to that with dread :D

My mum certainly had some extreme dietry changes once she was diagnosed. I dont think she had the best advice. From what i have read so far today, you can have a relatively normal diet.

I was talking to my wife about this tonight:

I dont smoke, never have.
I hardly drink anymore (Cut right down almost 16 yrs ago) i only have an odd single glass of wine with a meal occasionally.
Most nights we eat boiled spuds, a chicken breast, and a couple of fresh veg options... cabbage, carrots, peas, colli.

I am over weight, round the waist, the rest of me is still muscular (Just) :lol:
 
Well you are recommended to get yourself a Blood Testing meter (your nice doctor might prescribe you one if you are lucky) so that you can test the effect that different foods have on your blood glucose levels. Its a good idea to cut back on Rice, Pasta, Bread and anything made from flour and Potatoes, your body quickly turns these foods into sugar. As you read around this site you will see that many of us have cut right back on these foods, some people cut these in half. If you simply cannot survive without them, then try switching to the brown versions as they are converted more slowly into sugar.

I personally follow a low carb high fat diet, take a look at this website for the details http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf I have lost 1.5 stone since the beginning of July and am looking forward to my next HBA1C test next Monday. With any luck I can reduce my Metformin and come off the BP meds.

Keep asking questions (its a bit quiet tonight, there will be lots more people around tomorrow!)
 
Hi Chris and welcome to the forum :)

There is a lot to learn and get used to but just take your time - all will become easier and you are amongst friends. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi Chris, :)

Welcome to the forum,

If you have to purchase a BG meter, Get good advice from the forum as the test strips are quite expensive .

My first one cost me a furtune, then I got one from Amazon ,"Codefree Blood Glucose Monitor", of which the strips are far cheaper.

Good luck,

Roy. :)
 
Hi Folks,

daisy1, thank you for the information, it will be very useful indeed.

izzzi, thanks for the advice, I shall see what next week brings after my next visit to the docs. Always nice to learn from someone elses experience.

Im going to use the post in the 'newly diagnosed' more than this one, after this post, saves jumping between two. :thumbup:
 
Hi Chris and welcome! You'll find a lot of information available on the internet very conflicting but hopefully you find all the help and support on this website useful :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the welcome Giverny,

Yes there is a lot of information, and a lot of conflicting info. However from what I have seen on here, there does seem to be a universal agreement of the members of this forum, when it comes to things like LCHF diets and such.

I have created a series of quiestions to ask the doc on monday. Hopefully a lot of them will be answered as a matter of course. It is She, who gave me the patient.co.uk address and the diabetes.co.uk address, so I am hopeful that she is encouraged and enlightened about Diabetes.
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