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<blockquote data-quote="RosB" data-source="post: 2473452" data-attributes="member: 546280"><p>Hi there, this bit stuck out for me. I think of keto as a scientific concept more than a type of diet. Your husband has reduced his glucose levels on his diet which is great (and may well assist any weight loss) but as far as the keto goes, he will not be burning fat (ie keto) unless he is in a ketosis state and that depends entirely on whether he is consuming few enough carbs to keep him in that state (on average you need to be eating less than 50 carbs, or for many, less than 30 but each person's threshold for this differs slightly).</p><p></p><p>You can't really be following a keto diet and be fat burning, if you're not in ketosis, and if you're not in ketosis then your body will be utilising the carbs it IS being given in preference to burning fat thus defeating the object of getting into ketosis for weight loss. That means (and this could be the case with your husband) that he is not getting the full benefits of his 'almost' keto approach so it won't be working, hence the absence of weight loss.</p><p></p><p>If he were truly to stick to an amount of carbs where he IS in ketosis then his nuts may not be a problem. Of course even on keto he should vary his diet, you can't live on nuts! I wonder if he would feel better mentally about it all if he could give up the fruit as 4 pieces will be 60 plus carbs at least and focus on the very low carb stuff which he could have lots more of and feel more satiated.</p><p></p><p>My main point is, you cannot be a little bit ketosis any more than you can be a little bit pregnant. Please bear in mind that none of us know what other health issues your husband might have or what medication he may be on so the above may not be appropriate for him.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Ok, maybe I should have said he's starting his keto journey? We're going into it slowly so we can make it a permanent change instead of a shorter term "diet". He avoids bread, pastry etc and the fruit is because he's too lazy to make a lunchbox. If I make it for him then he will have lots of smaller portions of different things. I think partly his journey into diabetes was that he never ate at work and then binged on food in the evenings, despite my protestations to eat regularly! </p><p></p><p>He's 51 and is otherwise healthy (apart from depression which he's on Venlafaxine for). He works on a pig farm, which is a manual job, but I think he needs more exercise. I'm trying to get him to agree to joining a gym with me, but money is tight. He does walk our large dog every night and longer walks on weekends. </p><p></p><p>I am concerned that he sweats and gets angry when doing simple jobs sometimes that are not strenuous. He never used to. So I think some cardio exercise will do him (and me) some good, but he can be stubborn.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="RosB, post: 2473452, member: 546280"] Hi there, this bit stuck out for me. I think of keto as a scientific concept more than a type of diet. Your husband has reduced his glucose levels on his diet which is great (and may well assist any weight loss) but as far as the keto goes, he will not be burning fat (ie keto) unless he is in a ketosis state and that depends entirely on whether he is consuming few enough carbs to keep him in that state (on average you need to be eating less than 50 carbs, or for many, less than 30 but each person's threshold for this differs slightly). You can't really be following a keto diet and be fat burning, if you're not in ketosis, and if you're not in ketosis then your body will be utilising the carbs it IS being given in preference to burning fat thus defeating the object of getting into ketosis for weight loss. That means (and this could be the case with your husband) that he is not getting the full benefits of his 'almost' keto approach so it won't be working, hence the absence of weight loss. If he were truly to stick to an amount of carbs where he IS in ketosis then his nuts may not be a problem. Of course even on keto he should vary his diet, you can't live on nuts! I wonder if he would feel better mentally about it all if he could give up the fruit as 4 pieces will be 60 plus carbs at least and focus on the very low carb stuff which he could have lots more of and feel more satiated. My main point is, you cannot be a little bit ketosis any more than you can be a little bit pregnant. Please bear in mind that none of us know what other health issues your husband might have or what medication he may be on so the above may not be appropriate for him.[/QUOTE] Ok, maybe I should have said he's starting his keto journey? We're going into it slowly so we can make it a permanent change instead of a shorter term "diet". He avoids bread, pastry etc and the fruit is because he's too lazy to make a lunchbox. If I make it for him then he will have lots of smaller portions of different things. I think partly his journey into diabetes was that he never ate at work and then binged on food in the evenings, despite my protestations to eat regularly! He's 51 and is otherwise healthy (apart from depression which he's on Venlafaxine for). He works on a pig farm, which is a manual job, but I think he needs more exercise. I'm trying to get him to agree to joining a gym with me, but money is tight. He does walk our large dog every night and longer walks on weekends. I am concerned that he sweats and gets angry when doing simple jobs sometimes that are not strenuous. He never used to. So I think some cardio exercise will do him (and me) some good, but he can be stubborn. [/QUOTE]
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