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Mrs Cumbs is voting remain
So that's one in and one out in our household️
We can uphold human rights by ourselves. We don't need to be told how, why & when by some unwieldy conglomerate, con being the operative word in most situations
Absolutely, they'll be tailored to fit our economy, the size and style of our businesses, demographic, not a "one size fits all"
Whilst still sitting on the fence I thought George Osbourne's announcement today that they'd have to be an emergency Budget to tackle a 30bn 'black hole' if we leave the EU was the sign of a desperate man and a desperate campaign to Remain, especially when he said cutbacks would have to be made to the NHS
The current UK Commissioner is Lord Jonathan Hill, former Conservative MP and Under Secretary of State for Education, then Conservative Leader of the House of Lords (2013-14). He was appointed UK Commissioner by David Cameron in 2014.like I said I don't trust them and as for that failed labour leader Mr Kinnock he is having a right good time at our expense
The current UK Commissioner is Lord Jonathan Hill, former Conservative MP and Under Secretary of State for Education, then Conservative Leader of the House of Lords (2013-14). He was appointed UK Commissioner by David Cameron in 2014.
I'm voting out
And I would like to point out I am neither a racist or a xenophobe
I am a very loyal loving and kind person
It's not about immigration or trade or security it's just what I would like to see happen
If we leave I won't stand on the top of Sca Fell singing
If we stay I won't stand on top of Sca Fell sulking
It will be decided quite rightly by the people of these islands then whatever happens so be it
The commissioners are indeed appointed by their respective governments but that does not mean they are accountable to us, as we [the electorate] have no say in who is appointed. It is my understanding that the commissioners determine what is presented to the European parliament & hence are more akin to what I would perceive as a government; however, there are 5 unelected presidents as well & I must confess to not knowing who they are or what they all do but they seem to have influence over the direction of the European Union that we do not. Indeed there is a council of ministers as well but hasn't our veto there been given up in many areas in favour of qualified majority voting?
The truth is most of us will never understand exactly how it all fits together; there is no transparancy & if we did understand, I think most of us would be horrified. Personally I don't like the heavy hand of big government; I want to be able to vote against what I perceive as interfering government but there is only one chance I have to vote against the heavy hand of the European Union & that is on 23rd June.
We don't live in a plebiscite where the population votes on every issue; we live in a representative democracy where the people we elect are tasked with making the decisions (and frankly should be making this one but that's another rant). So, its not at all undemocratic to vote for MPs and the winning party structure then gets to appoint commissioners who represent our interests in Europe.
A lot of the 'red tape' that the EU implements is in the interest of the citizen and not in the interest of big businesses or governments. We could implement our own protections for our citizens but it is noticeable that we didn't in many areas until 'forced' to by the EU. Think about maternity pay for instance; The UK introduced its first maternity leave legislation through the Employment Protection Act 1975 (which I'd bet but am not sure was to bring us into line with European approaches), that was extended through further legislation, such as The Employment Act 1980. However, for the first 15 years, only about half of working women were eligible for it because of long qualifying periods of employment. In 1993, coverage was extended to all working women, in order to bring Britain into compliance with a European Commission directive on this issue.
That's 1993!
All members states are in the same position as us, our sovereignty situation is not a new position; it has been a fact since we joined the EU. How is it relevant to our day to day lives? Does anyone here have any say in the appointment of the judges to the Supreme Court in the England? No, but that doesn't mean we are living under tyranny.
This is so important that it really worries me that we are potentially torching our own home for no good reason.
The UK is the 5th biggest economy in the world. The EU as a collective is the largest by a huge way. Why wouldn't we want to be a part of that?
We have demonstrated very ably that we have plenty of control over these. We vetoed the tariffs on Chinese steel very successfully and look what happened to the Newport Steel industry. The tariffs that were in place prior to that we were extremely happy with and wanted to keep.Even the economic argument to remain is weak because the European Union imposes common external tariffs that we have no control over.
I don't think they'd be at risk, I think that's completely fair. I hope you are aware that is was an EU directive that resulted in the equalisation of maternity leave for all women in 1993, and that prior to that, about 50% of women didn't qualify due to the period of employment required in order to qualify?My understanding is that we have greater maternity/paternity rights in this country than that enshrined in European law & hence it is erronious when the remain campaign suggests [as they have from time to time] that maternity/paternity rights would be at risk if we vote to leave the European Union.
Greater maternity/paternity rights.
Trust in any politician.
Representative democracy/accountability
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The so-called debate has generated more heat than light of course; and both sides have made exaggerated claims. The Remain campaign seems to have a scare story every day. Osborne suggests interest rates will rise - except of course, if the economy is weaker, and they have to be cut.Hi all, I think I know which way I am voting in June but am interested in others opinions on whether they will be voting in / out / undecided and why.
Those people from other countries - have you heard much about this debate and what are your thoughts.
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