I find the same. Fats slow down the rate of absorption of carbs, but moreover, increased fat content generally coincides with decreased carb content within a meal. Fat content also seems to improve the satiety effect of a meal (well it certainly does for me), so this can even further reduce the amount of carbs that you are eating.I have found if I don't eat a lot of fat at meals I rise after about an hour but if I eat a lot of fat with meals I stay steadier and need less insulin at meals.
No I don't see it like that. Reducing carbs and thereby reducing insulin requirements is good for weight control. I now believe that fat is not the bad guy that we've been led to believe in terms of weight gain, and that for many people carbs are a bigger factor.How would I reduce fat to lose a few pounds without rising? If I take more insulin I will go low 1st. I could split doses but seems counter productive to keep insulin low to lower weight? Am I missing something?
That can be an issue, but you should also be aware that many people who eat a lot of protein "double bolus" once with the meal and then a couple of hours later to manage the rise that takes place as gluconeogenesis kicks in. The second bolus is usually around 50% of the first.also do you think sometimes too much fat or fiber slows things so much that you run out of insulin and go a little higher later around 3 hours? I notice that too. I stay steady for 3 hours and then start rising. I take 1 unit with meals so it seems feasible I could be running out before the protein gets there. I seem to do a lot of gluconeogenesis as I cannot eat any protein with BF or I spike
THought?
That can be an issue, but you should also be aware that many people who eat a lot of protein "double bolus" once with the meal and then a couple of hours later to manage the rise that takes place as gluconeogenesis kicks in. The second bolus is usually around 50% of the first.
@Kristin251 Have you just checked with your doctor that there isn't anything else causing the weight gain (eg thyroid issues, etc)?
Your diet seems very sparse so it's not like you're over-eating in any way or anything.
Ever tried making sauerkraut coleslaw? I love it.
also do you think sometimes too much fat or fiber slows things so much that you run out of insulin and go a little higher later around 3 hours? I notice that too. I stay steady for 3 hours and then start rising. I take 1 unit with meals so it seems feasible I could be running out before the protein gets there. I seem to do a lot of gluconeogenesis as I cannot eat any protein with BF or I spike
THought?
There is nothing to stop you double bolusing with smaller amounts of insulin if you are seeing rises anyway. It's the essence of Sugar Surfing and is far more effective at maintaining control...I do have a meal with a lot of protein I do double bolus. I don't eat a lot of protein normally. 1 oz at lunch and 3 oz dinner. It does seem more than 3 oz would require a double bolus but I tend to eat small meals in size due to digestion issues. I have always been a grazer but now need to keep that to a minimum of course.
The nuts kept my calorie content quite high. I was probably eating 3 oz macadamias by the end of the day! I have never required a lot of calories and have much more energy if I keep meals small. Too much food in general bogs me down. I haven't eaten carbs in many years as I would fall comatose asleep 45 min later but I have always done better on lots of fat. I love my mayo
I had thyroid done 6 months ago and all good. Going to endo next Monday so will be requesting that as well. I tend to run closer to hyer than hypo but things do change...
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There is nothing to stop you double bolusing with smaller amounts of insulin if you are seeing rises anyway. It's the essence of Sugar Surfing and is far more effective at maintaining control...
I love macadamias too! The only thing that stops me eating a packet at a time is the price here : D
Another thought occurred to me - could some of the weight gain be due to weight you lost prior to diagnosis? When I was diagnosed, I put on weight (and more than I'd lost too) but as my body settled down my weight normalised.
My final thought is could you have some level of insulin resistance?
Exactly that - use your meter to work out the appropriate dose.I agree not only does it give me better BS control but I also feel more stable. Do you think 1 unit with the meal and 1/2 45 minutes later would be good? I still wouldn't eat slabs of protein as I don't feel good with lots. I guess my meter will tell me
My typical (with a few odd ones) BS readings are around 80 fasting and 80-115 (usually around 105)before the next meal. I realize these are good numbers but I still would like to tighten up the spike somehow.
Insulin resistance? Good question, you tell me...
A high fat meal keep the spike slow and low. However, a high fat meal can also make us IR. I take 1 unit with meals. A 1/2 unit correction bolus away from food can drop me 20-30. I do wonder if the nuts made me IR or kept things slow and low from meal to meal?
My typical (with a few odd ones) BS readings are around 80 fasting and 80-115 (usually around 105)before the next meal. I realize these are good numbers but I still would like to tighten up the spike somehow. Maybe I will have to bolus 1/2 and have a small snack in between a meal.
Can we ever get this right without testing every hour? LOL Would I be better off just letting it ride up and take insulin 15 min before the next meal? Fluctuating BS makes me crawl out of my skin
Today 3 hours after BF and light yoga BS went from 77 to 98. Not a big deal BUT I took 1/2 unit and had a piece of romaine swiped with mayo and 2 olives. Maybe that will help with lunch bolus by having a little residual left. I started backing lunch insulin up as well and again rose 3 hours after, I just think I run out before all my foods are digested being on such low doses so maybe adding a little in between will help from meal to next meal.Exactly that - use your meter to work out the appropriate dose.
115 isn't a spike. Non-diabetics reach above 140, they just don't stay there as long as Ds tend to. 115 is right in the middle of where you should be!
I do think tiny insulin adjustments can help. Yes, it's tedious to have to test and experiment, but I make myself do it. I find moving the time of my bolus can make a big difference (for me, at least).
Another thing - and this may not be at all relevant - but, for example, I find if I skip breakfast or have a late breakfast I'm very prone to my blood rising. I now avoid doing that. Just one example of how little changes can help.
You mentioned your age and hormones. I don't know anything about your particular circumstances, but never underestimate hormones. When I was on the Pill, I put on weight almost overnight. I also found my blood sugar was higher than usual and control was harder. I'd never have believed hormones coukd have such an effect, particularly on weight gain, until I saw it with my own eyes.
Meaty, higher fat meals will require less insulin as it contains less sugar, you should take less insulin to cover that particular meal, when you eat, write down what you've eaten and check/record your sugar levels, this will give you a better understanding on what foods make you high/low/levelI have found if I don't eat a lot of fat at meals I rise after about an hour but if I eat a lot of fat with meals I stay steadier and need less insulin at meals. How would I reduce fat to lose a few pounds without rising? If I take more insulin I will go low 1st. I could split doses but seems counter productive to keep insulin low to lower weight? Am I missing something?
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