Fat - is it really bad/good?

ghost_whistler said:

Fair rnough, but for me, I'd rather eat a bit less meat but it's a little tough finding something for lunch other than more meat.

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I don't eat meat at every meal. Yesterday lunchtime I ate a green salad & zucchini soup. Last night a tuna salad. Maybe a few too many carbs for some, but it works for me.

This latest presentation by President of World heart federation. Fats are protective.

I never eat with the intention of feeling full - I find it quite unpleasant and I associate it will feeling lethargic and bloated.
If you want to burn fat you need to eat fat - so said Dr Atkins, and eating less fat with the intention of getting into ketosis faster is not going to work.
It is like putting the wrong fuel into a car engine, it just causes it to choke and damage itself.
I found that when doing Atkins I could eat far more calories and lose weight than when I was eating fewer calories and not losing - in fact I can gain on a standard diet. It is all about the carbs, but you need to include the natural accompaniment to protein, fats, to get your metabolism working properly.

kokhongw said:

This latest presentation by President of World heart federation. Fats are protective.

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Thanks for posting - excellent lecture.

ghost_whistler said:

So the key to achieving ketosis is to eat more fat? Even if one is overweight?

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The key is to drop carbs. You can get into ketosis through starvation (zero carbs, zero protein, zero fat). So you don't HAVE to eat lots of fat.

However, if you do eat fat it helps your body to get used to metabolising fat, and it then seems to find it easier to switch from metabolising dietary fat to metabolising the body's own fat stores.

Brunneria said:

The key is to drop carbs. You can get into ketosis through starvation (zero carbs, zero protein, zero fat). So you don't HAVE to eat lots of fat.

However, if you do eat fat it helps your body to get used to metabolising fat, and it then seems to find it easier to switch from metabolising dietary fat to metabolising the body's own fat stores.

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errrmm.... fasting please not starvation...

Fasting is fasting, starvation is starvation. Ketosis happens in both.

And yes, i did mean to say 'starvation' (it was for dramatic effect)

kokhongw said:

This latest presentation by President of World heart federation. Fats are protective.

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Thank you for sharing that, it is a real confirmation of all the things I have been reading and assimilating from a variety of sources including this forum. THEY must take notice soon, surely?

douglas99 said:

I found saturated fats really pushed up my cholesterol.
I eat Mediterranean, I don't eat high fat, I avoid saturated fat if I do eat fat.

All my blood results, cholesterol, kidney, liver, BMI, urine tests, are normal by mainstream definition, and I'm happy with them there.

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Saturated fats may push up the total cholesterol, but increases hdl and decreases tryglicerides, ldl may increase but what is important in ldl-p and usually they don't do particle ldl tests. So the total cholesterol number is meaningless, imo.
Btw, I'm not diabetic, I'm on a keto diet and joined here to get some feedback on glucose/ketone meters.
My health and life have changed beyond belief after I started a keto diet 6 months ago.