Found out the inevitable today, T2

ickihun · Jan 9, 2018

BarneyLFC80 said:
Sounds like a plan! With carbs like rice, bread and pasta - is it ok to switch these for wholegrain varieties? I've steered away from most beers these days (as I'm also producing high uric acid and I found that made it worse), but I do like a spot of cider every now and then. Wife read up that mixed berry varieties aren't good - try telling me that with 2 fridge packs of Carling Mixed Berry Cider lol

Thanks for your advise too Rachox - I already had myself a meter, as I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea. Trialled it tonight

Sounds like my sweet tooth. I love those ciders too but my bgs jump out of the window

Katiesgran said:
Look up Diet Doctor website and you will find very good diet advice, and why would you need to give up cheese. Warn you now that doctors diet advice will bear no resemblance to what you will read on here. Regarding your Fatty Liver disease for gods sake do not ignore this. Potentially this is more serious than your Type 2, and is possibly why you are diabetic. Do not let your doctor fob you off, ask to be referred to the liver clinic for scans so that you know what state it is in now and get it repeated yearly. I was told for 9 years I had non alcoholic fatty liver disease and not to worry about it. I didn't. I now have untreatable cirrhosis.
All that sounds very negative but you have the answers in your own hands. You can put your diabetes into remission with a Low carb, high fat diet. This diet should also allow your liver to recover, along with limited alcohol and weight and resistance training. So for you luckily, you can go on to have a long and healthy life. Good luck.

I like your advice on fatty liver. The liver holds a lot of keys to diseases. One member @Liam1955 is doing a lot of work on his liver successfully too. He uses milk thistle and is getting great improvements on a diet not low carb, even.
Act now @BarneyLFC80 . Don't wait for confusing and conducting advice. Get a grip on your liver.
Myself lchf reduced my liver enzymes hugely. Cheese and double cream worked wonders. Chips and roasties, beer and crisp eating are a life of disease. Pork scratchings and celeriac chips with eggs, chicken, beef and bacon in stir-fries, omelettes and the occasional fried eggs on protein bread toast. No baked beans but anything labelled less than 10g carb per 100g will get your meals exciting.
Good luck and enjoy your food knowing its safe for your liver and diabetes.

Liam1955 · Jan 9, 2018

Hi @BarneyLFC80 and Welcome to the Forum .

Take a look at this site:
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

There is a Thread for Fatty Liver - I will tag you on there .

TheBigNewt · Jan 9, 2018

My daughter's liver enzymes were mildly elevated and returned to normal when she stopped her vitamin supplement. Happened to her friend who took the same thing. I'd stay away from mysterious dietary supplements if you know what's good for you.

dbr10 · Jan 9, 2018

BarneyLFC80 said:
Well, today was the day for it to be confirmed. Docs automated SMS system kind of told me I had Diabetes just before New Year as I had been in for a batch of tests for some other medical complaint.

Been a large lad all my life, tried no end of diets etc, none have really worked well long term. Always wondered if I would end up with more problems later on in life. 3 years ago confirmed as having Fatty Liver Disease (still think that's daft), and now have high BP with confirmed Type 2. Just edging into the Diabetes scale I believe, so he's now "added me to the list" as he put it. Can't recall us discussing my hba1c reading, so will need to find that out.

So, any tips out there folk?? Been reading up the general do's and don't in terms of diet. Some of it is paining me already, I absolutely love CHEESE!!! I guess I'll find a way to cope, and I hope that this forum helps that mechanism, problem shared and all that. Perhaps it's something like this, along with the other ailments that will make me realise that SOMETHING needs to be done to improve my medical well being. I'll sleep on that idea tonight!

Sorry to hear that. Plenty of good advice on here.

dbr10 · Jan 9, 2018

Bubbsie said:
Hi Barney...I was diagnosed around 18 months ago in a telephone call from my local surgery...given a prescription...told to see my regular GP when he returned from holiday...did just that...leaflets supplied...little else said...no need to test your blood sugars...book yourself on an education course & come back in three months...had heard of diabetes but no idea how it could impact on my life at that stage...my GP had a very blasé attitude so I wasn't overly concerned...now 18 months later I know better...I've read...researched...joined a couple of forums where I have learned so much...have reasonable control of my diabetes...take better care of myself than I have done for many years so ironically for me as unbelievable as it may sound diabetes has had many positive aspects that arrived with it...one essential source of reading for me was 'Type 2 Diabetes The First Year' by Gretchen Becker...type 2 herself...she takes you through her first year month by month...explains what diabetes is...how it develops...whether to self monitor our blood sugars...explains the benefits of testing...diet and so much more...for me it was an absolute life saver...I would highly recommend it...you can preview it on Amazon...possibly find it in your local library...well worth a look.

Would also add Dr Bernsteins diabetes solution - though mainly for type 1s and Blood sugar 101 by Jenny Rhule.

GeminiMum · Jan 9, 2018

Resurgam said:
I laughed out loud when the diabetes education people recommended that we should eat baked potatoes and baked beans.
They were at a total loss when I was down to below diabetic levels at the third session - but I was really worried as there were some really ill people attending - one couple who were at the second one did not turn up for the third.
I have not seen my doctor since diagnosis - I think he's sulking, and am bouncing about like a Tigger.

I was told the same, eat potatoes, carrots, chocolate etc etc, having Gestational Diabetes prior to being diagnosed with T2 a few weeks ago I knew that potatoes were an "enemy" - really shocked at the advice (or lack of advice) I was given.

rolypolypudding · Jan 9, 2018

BarneyLFC80 said:
Well, today was the day for it to be confirmed. Docs automated SMS system kind of told me I had Diabetes just before New Year as I had been in for a batch of tests for some other medical complaint.

Been a large lad all my life, tried no end of diets etc, none have really worked well long term. Always wondered if I would end up with more problems later on in life. 3 years ago confirmed as having Fatty Liver Disease (still think that's daft), and now have high BP with confirmed Type 2. Just edging into the Diabetes scale I believe, so he's now "added me to the list" as he put it. Can't recall us discussing my hba1c reading, so will need to find that out.

So, any tips out there folk?? Been reading up the general do's and don't in terms of diet. Some of it is paining me already, I absolutely love CHEESE!!! I guess I'll find a way to cope, and I hope that this forum helps that mechanism, problem shared and all that. Perhaps it's something like this, along with the other ailments that will make me realise that SOMETHING needs to be done to improve my medical well being. I'll sleep on that idea tonight!

Hi Barney
I am prediabetic. I tried a diabetes education course and it was a complete and utter waste of my time. I dropped out after 3 sessions because I resented being talked down to by a group leader who wasn't even a nurse, let alone a dietician. I'm convinced that when they're designing this course, they assume everyone who is type 2 or pre is obese, lazy and ignorant.The Eatwell plate was produced and all the usual rubbish about eating low fat this and that, which being a foodie I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.
I have found the most useful information on this website and just researching online in general. All the emerging evidence seems to suggest that low carb is the way to go. I'm still trying to wean myself off carbs and sweet stuff which I really like, but you may find you can get into it fairly quickly.

Lauriem1967 · Jan 10, 2018

I’m new too, please check out dr.Sarah Hallberg on youtube. The channel is called fitterU. She’s a real doctor for obesity and diabetes. She talks about the Low carb High Fat (LCHF) way of eating. Also dr Eric Westman has a YouTube video about diabetes, he’s from Duke University. The video is called Dr. Eric Westman LCHF and Diabetes: Theory and clinical experience.

Two excellent videos by real educated specialists who have really good news about reversing Diabetes.

One has done study’s and the other does hands on practice in her daily life.

I hope you find some help with these videos.

I’ve been diagnosed, sent home with Metformin. I didn’t use it because my BG levels are within range. A doctor can’t see me until end of February.

I would love to hear if LCHF works for you. It’s working for me. Stay in touch,

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