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Four hour high - how does that happen?

ChrisSamsDad

ChrisSamsDad

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So I'm on a work trip to that there London, and faced with the temptation of a full English breakfast at 6.30am, gave in to it: A sausage, 4 fried mushrooms, fried egg, tomato, a small portion of beans - and they had bubble and squeak, so had to have that (obvs), but it was only about one small potato's worth in about 70% cabbage and onion, and I did have a piece of wholemeal toast with peanut butter, as it was going to be so long until lunch.

2 hour BG was 5.6, so was fairly happy with that, but then 4 hours on 7.2 and just now, 6 hours on, 6.9 - what's happening there? ?Do I have very slow digestion and need to be testing later than 2 hours in?
 
Hi @ChrisSamsDad The GI value of different foods causes the BG to raise at different speeds. Additionally, high fat meals (pizza is usually given as an example) can slow the digestion of the carbs and therefore the peak even further. Wholemeal bread in particular and less so baked beans are both low GI items, so pair these with a fatty fry up and you can expect a delayed raise.
 
ChrisSamsDad said:
So I'm on a work trip to that there London, and faced with the temptation of a full English breakfast at 6.30am, gave in to it: A sausage, 4 fried mushrooms, fried egg, tomato, a small portion of beans - and they had bubble and squeak, so had to have that (obvs), but it was only about one small potato's worth in about 70% cabbage and onion, and I did have a piece of wholemeal toast with peanut butter, as it was going to be so long until lunch.

2 hour BG was 5.6, so was fairly happy with that, but then 4 hours on 7.2 and just now, 6 hours on, 6.9 - what's happening there? ?Do I have very slow digestion and need to be testing later than 2 hours in?
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Probably at least 50g carb in there as a conservative estimate - carbs in the sausage, tomato, beans, bubble and squeak in the potato onion and even the cabbage, toast and the peanut butter even though a small amount they all add up - it's a high carb high fat meal so probably the pizza effect - you can google it for an explanation but basically the fat slows down the digestion of the carbs so your numbers can be high for hours.

There's nothing wrong with the temptation of a full English as long as you make sensible choices - bacon eggs mushroom and high meat sausage - the cheaper sausages can have as much as 14g carb. Try to avoid things like toast, fried bread, black pudding, beans, hash browns. I'm afraid we all have to learn to avoid temptation as your meter has proved. Maybe you could get away with one carb and see what that does to you levels you may be able to tolerate that fine
 
Thanks guys for those answers. I did ask about the sausage and told it was 100% pork, and it did indeed taste like that. It was literally a tablespoon of beans, so that should have been by my reckoning about 8g carb. Tomato I reckoned 4g. Must say I didn't consider the Black Pudding as a source of carbohydrate, it was so well cooked it was more likely to have been hydrocarbons. Toast about 12g. It all adds up, doesn't it?
 
Black pud needs some starchy stuff to bind it all together - I used to think it just contained a bit of pearl barley, but it also contains oats, so it could be a bit of a sneaky one like some sausages...

A pity as it used to be one of my holiday breakfast treats! :(

Robbity
 
God yeah, just googled it and Tesco's Black Pudding slices are 13g per slice.
 
I shouldn't worry - at the end of the day you didn't go up by more than 2 points and 7.2 is acceptable in my book! Also there other factors that can raise you up and down during the day, eg. stress.
 
ChrisSamsDad said:
Thanks guys for those answers. I did ask about the sausage and told it was 100% pork, and it did indeed taste like that. It was literally a tablespoon of beans, so that should have been by my reckoning about 8g carb. Tomato I reckoned 4g. Must say I didn't consider the Black Pudding as a source of carbohydrate, it was so well cooked it was more likely to have been hydrocarbons. Toast about 12g. It all adds up, doesn't it?
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In 40 years as a 'swinger', I have never had blood sugars like those.
 
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