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<blockquote data-quote="MangosteenElbow" data-source="post: 1800983" data-attributes="member: 322425"><p>I had "frozen shoulder" after onset of LADA but before MDI.</p><p>Hugely painful and disruptive si I empathise.</p><p>Very briefly, disclaiming etc but only sharing ... I researched it thoroughly across many published papers.</p><p>In brief:</p><p>There's a physiological difference between encapsulitis and "frozen shoulder" (which does not seem to have a generic nedical description because it is less definable than encapsulitis).</p><p>The pathologies of both are poorly understood.</p><p>Therefore the treatments and therapies are poorly justified and structured.</p><p>It is common for GPs to advise of the availability of cortisol injections and exploratory surgery. They ought to advise of the availability but also the limited use of them especially for frozen shoulder. Neither addresses the pathology that is the underlying cause.</p><p>I wad advised thst it could take 18 months to resolve wirhout intervention. 6 months of unrelenting pain and limited use. 6 months of less pain and limited use but noticeable. 6 months to fade away.</p><p>After rejecting the knife and cortisol some minrhs later I found a research paper from a French therapist. Although the paper was low on the grade of evidence, it gave practical exercises that I could try for free.</p><p>I did. </p><p>I found benefits within a week or so - enough improvement to suggest it was not improving suddenly of its own accord.</p><p>I am reluctant to specify the paper due to online trolls who will wrongly focus on one paper (when I have carefully consider ovwr a hundred published papers with better quaility evidence). I suggest you explore yourself online DYI physical therapies specifically for frozen shoulder, avoiding gurus, people who sell magic solutions or foods as cures.</p><p>After MDI and long after my frozen shoulder mostly resolved itself I went keto and onto a pump. I woukd say that numerous indicators of many kinds of inflammation disappeared with my keto such that I feel tremendously better for it.</p><p>I hypothesise that had I been on keto earlier, I would not have succumbed to shingles or, shortly after that, frozen shoulder. As I wrote above, the pathology of frozen shoulder us poorly understood, but if you are living with it (high pain, limited movement, extreme psin on being jarred or sneezing, inability to lift ...) and suffering the consequences within the family etc., it's worth considering both the DYI physical therapy and the nutrition hypothesis.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MangosteenElbow, post: 1800983, member: 322425"] I had "frozen shoulder" after onset of LADA but before MDI. Hugely painful and disruptive si I empathise. Very briefly, disclaiming etc but only sharing ... I researched it thoroughly across many published papers. In brief: There's a physiological difference between encapsulitis and "frozen shoulder" (which does not seem to have a generic nedical description because it is less definable than encapsulitis). The pathologies of both are poorly understood. Therefore the treatments and therapies are poorly justified and structured. It is common for GPs to advise of the availability of cortisol injections and exploratory surgery. They ought to advise of the availability but also the limited use of them especially for frozen shoulder. Neither addresses the pathology that is the underlying cause. I wad advised thst it could take 18 months to resolve wirhout intervention. 6 months of unrelenting pain and limited use. 6 months of less pain and limited use but noticeable. 6 months to fade away. After rejecting the knife and cortisol some minrhs later I found a research paper from a French therapist. Although the paper was low on the grade of evidence, it gave practical exercises that I could try for free. I did. I found benefits within a week or so - enough improvement to suggest it was not improving suddenly of its own accord. I am reluctant to specify the paper due to online trolls who will wrongly focus on one paper (when I have carefully consider ovwr a hundred published papers with better quaility evidence). I suggest you explore yourself online DYI physical therapies specifically for frozen shoulder, avoiding gurus, people who sell magic solutions or foods as cures. After MDI and long after my frozen shoulder mostly resolved itself I went keto and onto a pump. I woukd say that numerous indicators of many kinds of inflammation disappeared with my keto such that I feel tremendously better for it. I hypothesise that had I been on keto earlier, I would not have succumbed to shingles or, shortly after that, frozen shoulder. As I wrote above, the pathology of frozen shoulder us poorly understood, but if you are living with it (high pain, limited movement, extreme psin on being jarred or sneezing, inability to lift ...) and suffering the consequences within the family etc., it's worth considering both the DYI physical therapy and the nutrition hypothesis. [/QUOTE]
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