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diet betes

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I go to a Cafe now and again and have a good English breakfast, usually with no undue effects.

Today 4 hours after the breakfast my BG was 21.9!!

This is the highest it has been since year 2000.

HELP!!!

Chris
 
What exactly did you eat?
 
If it was me id go to A & E
 
And what would they do at A&E?
I'm not on Insulin!

The brekky consisted of:-

2 x Sausages
1 X Bacon
Canned tomatoes
Baked Beans
Mushrooms
2 thick pieces of toast
2 tablespoons of butter
2 tablespoons of Marmalade
2 cups of Tea.

It seems an awful lot when you write it down

Chris
 
diet betes said:
The brekky consisted of:-

2 x Sausages
1 X Bacon
Canned tomatoes
Baked Beans
Mushrooms
2 thick pieces of toast
2 tablespoons of butter
2 tablespoons of Marmalade
2 cups of Tea.

It seems an awful lot when you write it down

Chris
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All those marked in red contain carbs/sugar. They will have made your levels go up. Even the sausages contain bread. Did you have large portions?

Just eggs, bacon and mushrooms make a good breakfast.
 
Thanks Daisy 1.

I will keep a close eye on the BG levels & sugar/carb imtake for the rest of the day and until this is sorted.

Cheers,

Chris
 
Did you check your BG BEFORE you ate that (lovely) breakfast? What did you eat/drink last night?

If your BG was down in th normal levels (>4 and <7) I wouldn't expect a breakfast to hit you THAT hard.

However - a lot can go wrong with breakfasts. Cheap sausages are full of carbs, beans are high in sugar, toms are high in sugar (beans and toms will have higher sugar contenet if they've been cooked for a long time) and marmalade is FULL of sugar.

But if you've eaten this before, and measured before and after without a huge increase n BG, then you should look elsewhere for a cause to the massive rise in BG.

If it's not what you've eaten, what else could it be? Are you poorly? Maybe your pancrease has packed up?

Keep on checkin' that BG, mate.
 
Thanks Patch, my usual waking BG is around 12, apparently I suffer from the dawn syndrome.

I will surely keep an eye on it and let you all know how it goes.

Sorry if I have excited a few taste buds!!!

Chris
 
You have - and the worst thing is, I've got Black Pudding and Bacon in the fridge. But tonight we're going to the outlaws for dinner. That'll probably be vegetarian.
 
For your dawn syndrome, try having a small carby snack just before you go to bed. It should help keep your levels more constant during the night which may help you avoid this effect.

Also don't wait for too long before having breakfast.
HTH
 
diet betes said:
And what would they do at A&E?
I'm not on Insulin!

Chris
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They would probably have given you some Insulin to lower it down. It doesn't matter that you are a T2. When I had readings over 24 mmol/l during an illness and anti-Cancer treatment I was told that I should have gone to A&E .........I actually sat it out and drunk a load of water. Took about 4 hrs to drop to more normal levels !
 
It may be that what you are eating in the evening is contributing to the high morning level. Check your Bg level two hours after your last meal and again just before bed, if you are low then have a carby snack before bed.

Check immediately on rising in the morning. Even a shower will put up your levels first thing.
 


Chris,

There's a hell of a lot of carbohydrates in that meal, could you not at least have 1 less slice of toast (thin or medium if possible) and leave the marmalade alone, if there is a lot of baked beans on the plate just eat half or ask for extra portion of mushrooms instead, all this will drastically reduce the carb content and hopefully improve your postprandial readings.

Nigel
 
I find with baked beans the sugar content in the sauce varies.I can eat a reasonable amount of baked beans, if I eat more of the beans and less of the sauce.

Though I don't eat the bread or sausage with them,but oh the thought of toast and marmalade.......................
 
I understand that too many carbs can cause problems.

However, why look beyond the marmalade in this case?

Two big spoonfuls of almost pure sugar is surely going to blast your blood sugar into orbit.

Eliminate the most obvious culprit and then try again, then cut out the toast, and so on until you get to a meal which doesn't give you a major spike.

Mmmmmmm......marmalade.
Sweetest of sins.

Cheers

LGC

P.S. my full english is along the lines of:

2 rashers lean bacon
piece of steak
2 eggs
fried fresh tomato
1/2 tin beans
(somtimes mushrooms)

This seems to keeep me full for much of the day and my weight has come down, along with my numbers.

P.P.S.

Just looked at a tin of Woolworths tomatoes and the carbs are 3.8g per 100g of which the sugar is 0.8g per 100g so I would not give up the tinned tomatoes.
The Pams baked beans are 13.8g of carbs with 5.1g of sugars so not as good but hardly terrible.
Brands are NZ brands which is why I am posting in the middle of the night
 
My version of a Big Breakfast is
2 rashers of bacon (never lean)
1 scrambled egg
Half a tomato
1 slice homemade VLC bread (1-2 grams carbs)fried in the dripping
couple of slices of zuchinni
several mushrooms

Cholesterol continues to improve without medication and is in an extremely happy place.
No longer make marmalade or jams and don't even have them in the pantry any longer.
 
Canonelli beans are nice and very good for smoothing the glucose spike. I learned this at my diabetic cookery course. They are good in leek and potato soup too.
Martin
 
metalmagpie said:
Canonelli beans are nice and very good for smoothing the glucose spike. I learned this at my diabetic cookery course. They are good in leek and potato soup too.
Martin
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Cannellini beans are a good low-gi food, its rated at 31 on the glycemic index.

Nigel
 
This thread does make me wander......on diagnosis, my hba1c was 10.4, fasting bg was 13 and my bg's must have reached 20. Since then I assume that due to losing over 5 stone in weight, I have reversed my insulin resistance. During the last two years I have had a couple of "to hell with it all" binges and the highest post meal bg I have recorded is 12, so as a measure of recovery, I am wandering if I have reached a stage whereby my body's ability to manage hyperglycaemia is so improved that I will not see levels of 20 again regradless of what I may eat during a binge, bearing in mind that I know I will deteriorate if the weight goes back on??.PS most post meal bg's these days are in the 5's and 6's and hba1c is in the 5%'s.

All the Best - Steve
 
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