getting rather sick of it now!

Hiya, looking back on your past posts, you mentiined rice, pasta and bread was your downfall. I'm guessing you know (or hope you do!) that all of these turn to glucose in your blood, they are really eating sugar in a different form - they can be just as bad as eating the sweet stuff.
There may well be a possibility that you're not type 2 but have you altered your diet to drastically cut down on these foods? If not, I think you really need to give it your all, then test to see what your numbers do.

It's possible, but if you have cut down, those are definitely high readings. I think you're right, you should be seen for a proper assessment by an Endocrinogist at hospital - you must feel pretty ill and fed up by now. Some Type 2's have to go on insulin ( my daughter is one of them!) and it can make life a hell of a lot easier. No shame in it at all, and the important thing is to get you sorted, so you can move forward.
Hope the GP has offered a referral, if not, I would ask for a second opinion.

Take care
PS. I'm good thanks, staying well.

I don't blame you. I certainly don't see why you couldn't be seen sooner and to be honest, if your readings have been high for this long, you should have been referred by now.
I wouldn't normally agree with going to A&E, but if you feel really ill, then go. You may need insulin to bring levels down a bit. Really hope this gets sorted soon, it's terrible that you have been treated like this.

It's high but the rolls could honestly push it that high, I know that for a fact. Until you can get seen, u really need to try and cut these things right out because they will make things worse, honestly.

Hi. Can you give us some idea of your weight or BMI? If you still have weight to lose then T2 is more likely. When you have a good average weight and still high blood sugar then T1 becomes more likely. Going onto insulin if overweight (I'm guessing) isn't ideal as you may already have too much insulin and have insulin resistance. Yes, two rolls is a bit on the high side? Can you give us some idea of typical meals and what meds you are currently on? My surgery put me onto insulin because we have trained diabetes staff there. Surgeries that don't have any diabetes skills may refer you

mrboobie79 said:

just tested my self after two small rolls at lunch water all day and my meds, 22.4

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2 small rolls are going to increase your sugars .. But to get things into perspective..what was your reading before eating them ..and what did you have in the rolls .. So if you tested just before eating and you were 20.4 and two hours after your rolls you are 22.4 then you have only had a rise of 2.0 not great ..but as the rolls are equal to sugar not bad ... Two rolls are higher than my days carb allowance .. I think you could help your self by really reducing the carbs .. 20 to 30g a day would be good to kick start your sugar reduction and increase the fats like coconut oils and almonds .. The best way to achieve this low carb is to cut out completely all bread ..potatoes .peas, carrots .. .rice ..pasta ..cereals ..and any thing with flour in so pies and puddings are out ... This will help to get your sugars down .. Then you can slowly add things back to your diet testing to see what's affecting you.
Insulin should be good but you still need to respect your diabetes and really change the way you eat.

Yes my medical team say the same to me .. I have the addition of a bad heart as well .. But cutting out the carbs and throwing away all low fat foods ...and eating full fats has given me my life back ..eating to the Drs guide lines I raised my weight by 2st and my sugar levels from 6.5 to around 23.9 and was so unwell, to follow the Drs eating advice I had to increase my carb count to higher than I was before my diabetes. I then went really low carb for a few weeks and high ish fats .. My sugar levels started to tumble ..then I increased to the 20g of carbs a day and lost weight ..sugars are stable and I feel better that I have for years. I see a friend who was T2 at the same time as me and he is going down hill .. Fast .. Doing what his dr tells him on more and more medication ..eating carbs to his eat well plate shown from the dr .. But he won't try anything without his dr saying it's ok .. They (Drs) won't do that as they have to follow the government advice on eating ..that is wrong.
This is your life and taking control of your health can be a bit daunting without the backing of your dr ..but at the end of the day it's your decision

Edit to add ... I was also ordered to eat fruit .. This is also a Nono ..berries are ok will full fat cream .. Forget what we are told is a balanced diet .. It's not healthy for diabetecs. I asked my DNS about the Newcastle diet to halt my T2.. She said she had never heard of it and it must me a load of rubbish ..I must eat lots of carbs & fruit and meat I told her five times I am vegetarian

Hi maybe post here what you are eating over 24hours and also tell us your blood sugar readings before you eat and two hours aft e r ..I do feel tho that you need to go back to your GP and say how ill you are feeling and demand a referral soon or to talk to a Dr who knows about diabetes.
I came back k from holiday in August with bloods of 16 and instantly cut out all rice ...pasta...bread except low carb livlife bread ...no potatoes or carbs of any significance...my bloods came down to now 8....but I have s started metformin too.I do feel the diet has been the biggest help.However if you are barely eating any carbs then you need sorting out soon.Good luck.......keep nagging!!

mrboobie79 said:

typical meals couple small rolls with salad and meat for lunch, tea time balanced meal with plenty of veg, sweetners in my tea and coffee, drink loads of water each day, i am about 13 stone, when i saw the doctor today she was saying its not your weight no way? still waiting for a call back, my nurse specialises with diabetes then pushed me to a doctor who said then hospital put me on it?!? cannot wait another two months feel proper ill, thanks daibell for taking the time to talk to me x

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All this conflicting info must be doing your head in but something has just clicked in mine lol. I've noticed you have mentioned a "balanced meal" on a couple of occasions. I have a feeling (could be wrong) that you are only viewing white bread, rice, pasta etc as carbs - and that you may well have been told to eat "good" carbs, such as brown bread, rice, pasta etc. All carbs, whether white or brown, turn to glucose in our blood, the difference being that the brown version often releases the sugars more slowly, so you don't get the spiked blood sugars - that's the theory anyway. The majority of us here control our carb intake in differing degrees, but I think it's fair to say that we all agree that carb intake has to be controlled. What is a "good balanced diet" ie boiled potatoes instead of roast, brown instead of white, is not a balanced diet for us. If you are eating the brown versions (which I suspect you are), and "healthy" cereals such as Shredded Wheat, your blood sugars will continue to stay high.

I can understand the confusion, as diabetic nurses and GP's often still insist on this good balanced diet, telling you need carbs for energy. If you are eating them, please try removing them and testing your blood sugars just before and two hours after eating. If your numbers come down as a result of these steps, then your problem lies there. Nobody is telling you to ignore medical advice, but to be aware that this advice can be causing problems. Even if you aren't type 2, bringing down your levels can only be a beneficial thing.

Hope you manage to keep us posted.

I really feel for you mrboobie. It's so frustrating when you try and don't seem to get anywhere. I'm still very early days, having only been diagnosed 3 weeks ago. I spoke to my sister-in-law who is diabetic and she told me to have porridge every morning and all the foods she suggested were things I didn't like. I came on this forum and discovered the lchf diet. I was eating rice about 3-4 times a week and pasta a couple of times. Sandwiches at lunchtime. Since then I have had NO rice or pasta whatsoever and 2 very small jacket potatoes a week. So perhaps you should try an alternative to your bread rolls. I have been trying to keep below 30g of carbs a day and my fbs has gone from 22 to 10 in 3 weeks. A couple of times it has hit 7.5. This morning it was 10.7 and I treated myself to a pear and an our later it was 15.3!!! pears are something my sister-in-law said (according to her DN) were fine. Each to his own and I'm plodding on with the blood testing before and after my meals to work out what I can have. Obviously not pears any more, although the other night I had 2 clementines and it only raised my bs by 2.

Don't just cut down on potatoes, rice, pasta... Cut them out altogether!!!