Hi everyone. I was diagnosed about 3 weeks ago type 2 on metformin 500 twice.daily. got fairly good results early on with blood glucose going down to 6-8 most of the time. This week it's all gone to pot not sure what I am doing wrong. Today for example I had porridge for breakfast no sugar added by 8.2 before 8.5 2 hrs after. Lunch I was out had a carb free picnic sausage cheese tomato cucumber and tea no sugar. Followed by a 10k cycle ride. Pre supper bg was 9.4. For supper I had savoury mince and veg nothing else my bg is now 20.2. Where am I going wrong I just don't know what's happened?
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Type 2 Getting worried now
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Alison Campbell
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2 things spring to mind, first wash your hands and test again. Second please detail what veg you had with the mince. This will allow others to make the best suggestions.
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You may need to reconsider porridge for breakfast. The majority of diet controlled T2's cannot handle that because it is high carb. Maybe try eggs with some bacon or ham or sausage. It is very common to be more insulin resistant in the morning and eating a load of carbs can set you up to be high all day. If you don't have time for a cooked breakfast in the morning then keeping some hard boiled eggs and cold sliced meat in the fridge is quick and easy.
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Was there any thickener, like Bisto in the mince?
Alternatively, are you feeling well, or brewing an infection or a virus? That can wreak havoc with the blood numbers.
And finally, have you recently (around the time of the increased readings starting) started a new tub of test strips, or using a different meter?
Alternatively, are you feeling well, or brewing an infection or a virus? That can wreak havoc with the blood numbers.
And finally, have you recently (around the time of the increased readings starting) started a new tub of test strips, or using a different meter?
porridge is almost pure carb... maybe if you choosed a breakfast without carbs your numbers wouldn´t spike, like if you choosed bacon and eggs or avocado with taco sauce or a lemon squeeze or salat with cheese or a Lidl protein roll with cheese and green pepper and so on.... some people do spike from porridge...
there is though another possibillity that you are maybe diagnosed wrongly and either need insuline as a type 2 or that you really are a type 1 who has not yet fully lost the abillity to produce just a little insuline.
if you want to have control then do count the number of grams of carbs on in each meal and do not eat more than around 100 grams of carbs totally in a day
there is though another possibillity that you are maybe diagnosed wrongly and either need insuline as a type 2 or that you really are a type 1 who has not yet fully lost the abillity to produce just a little insuline.
if you want to have control then do count the number of grams of carbs on in each meal and do not eat more than around 100 grams of carbs totally in a day
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Have you tested after exercise before. Strenuous exercise always raises my BG.
Apart from the porridge ( which always spikes me ) I can't see anything very obvious . What type of sausage maybe ? Some have lots more carbs than others. Gravy powder may add a bit but not to warrant those readings ?
If you are stressed or unwell you can get higher readings too.
Apart from the porridge ( which always spikes me ) I can't see anything very obvious . What type of sausage maybe ? Some have lots more carbs than others. Gravy powder may add a bit but not to warrant those readings ?
If you are stressed or unwell you can get higher readings too.
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Hi thanks all in answer to some of your questions my BG settled fairly quickly after the porridge but then I didn't check again till I got home when it was around 9 Mmmol. Home made savoury mince no thickeners and had high meat content sausages so I don't think it's that. My bg was around 15 at midnight and now is around 12 not had brekkie yet. I don't feel unwell but over the last week it has seemed that my bgs are better in the morning but then go high late afternoon into the evening. Just worried that the metformin doesn't seem to be helping at all.
metformin only helps a few percent, actually the food is the main road to getting type 2 under control, no medications can really do that, tere is no way around changing ones foods..in almost all ways..
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Ok so I'm not a T2 but my understanding of the action of Metformin is that is works to restrict the liver from secreting too much glucose. So it's not really going to do anything to prevent a bowl of porridge from rasing your blood glucose - because the glucose from food is carried across the wall of the small intestine.
Metformin should be helping to restrict liver dumps first thing in the morning (Dawn Phenomenon) and at other times during the day but may not have the same efficacy for every body. As daisy duck has pointed out above, the stress reaction from exercise could have produced a liver dump that the Metformin couldn't cope with. (Edited) Even a little bit of housework is enough to produce this liver dump effect in some people.
Depending on one's source of of information the max daily dose for Metformin is considerably higher than you're currently on. If you are concerned, then try to speak to your doc.
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Can I ask which meter do you use and was it supplied by your medical professional? Some people have reported strange test results from some meters at higher levels.
Your experience is so different to mine. Porridge caused the second highest reading I have ever had at 13 and a 3 mile walk will put in me the 4s.
As you are a newly diagnosed slim type 2 and your first thread was about trying to avoid weight loss on a low carb diet as other's have suggested there is a possibility you might not be type 2.
If none of the suggestions from the forum of why a low carb meal doubled your glucose levels ring true you will need to seek medical advice and possibly be quite assertive about getting further tests.
Your experience is so different to mine. Porridge caused the second highest reading I have ever had at 13 and a 3 mile walk will put in me the 4s.
As you are a newly diagnosed slim type 2 and your first thread was about trying to avoid weight loss on a low carb diet as other's have suggested there is a possibility you might not be type 2.
If none of the suggestions from the forum of why a low carb meal doubled your glucose levels ring true you will need to seek medical advice and possibly be quite assertive about getting further tests.
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Do you eat any fats? If not your protein intake may be too high and excess protein easily turns into glucose. Fat doesn't, it fills you up.
It can also be a case of wrong diagnosis and you are actually type 1,5, also called LADA.
It can also be a case of wrong diagnosis and you are actually type 1,5, also called LADA.
