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Gout diet contradicts

jim1951

jim1951

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
As well as type 2 I have Gout. Have had it for a number of years. I am on Allupurinol for it and although my Uric acid levels are well controlled my Gout attacks aren't!

I have struggled with diets because it appears they contradict. With Gout high protein foods cause excess purines etc. Chicken and oily fish are bad for gout and some of the good diabetic vegetables are also bad. What is good for gout is high carb diet!! Amongst the allowed items are rice, pasta, bread, juicy fruits, sugar (yes),relishes.

I try to eat to a diabetic regime but still get gout attacks because of this.

A glass of red wine is not detrimental for type 2 but as for gout............!

Are other people with both conditions struggling? If not how to you balance what you eat?

jim
 
I've had a recent gout attack (at least that is what it seems to have been) and had the same reaction - gout friendly diet is diametrically opposed to diabetic friendly diet.

I had a blood test to see if my urates were x-rates but everything seems to be nicely in the centre of the 'normal' range.
So I am waiting for a call back from my GP to discuss further.

As far as I can tell eggs and cheese are safe in both regimes, too much meat is not, spinach, beans cauliflower also out.
However if my bloods are normal then what is triggering the attack?
I was thinking an overdose of spinach might be the culprit, so perhaps a short peak in purines could trigger an attack.

Oh, and my Googling suggests that there is no proven link between alcoholic drinks and gout, apart from beer.

Anti-inflammatories seem to have mostly cleared up the problem, but it is nearly four weeks now and there is still some lingering discomfort in my big toe joint.

Anyway, I am trying not to overdose on purine-rich foods but also stay away from carbs.

Hopefully it will settle down over time.

Cheers

LGC
 
LittleGreyCat said:
I've had a recent gout attack (at least that is what it seems to have been) and had the same reaction - gout friendly diet is diametrically opposed to diabetic friendly diet.

I had a blood test to see if my urates were x-rates but everything seems to be nicely in the centre of the 'normal' range.
So I am waiting for a call back from my GP to discuss further.

As far as I can tell eggs and cheese are safe in both regimes, too much meat is not, spinach, beans cauliflower also out.
However if my bloods are normal then what is triggering the attack?
I was thinking an overdose of spinach might be the culprit, so perhaps a short peak in purines could trigger an attack.

Oh, and my Googling suggests that there is no proven link between alcoholic drinks and gout, apart from beer.

Anti-inflammatories seem to have mostly cleared up the problem, but it is nearly four weeks now and there is still some lingering discomfort in my big toe joint.

Anyway, I am trying not to overdose on purine-rich foods but also stay away from carbs.

Hopefully it will settle down over time.

Cheers

LGC
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LGC
having suffered with the gout for years I have done much research.

What I can tell you is that it is possible to have dangerously high uric acid levels and never experience a single gout attack.
Conversely it is possible to have "safe" uric acid levels but suffer from gout. This is the exception rather than the rule.

The anti inflammatory of choice for gout is Naproxen.

jim
 
Hi jim, If you can't do low carb go higher carb and take meds to keep your BG down, the main thing is to have BG control, if you can't do it through diet, you do it through drugs
 
jack412 said:
Hi jim, If you can't do low carb go higher carb and take meds to keep your BG down, the main thing is to have BG control, if you can't do it through diet, you do it through drugs
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thanks Jack
 
jim1951 said:
No probs on the BMI front, 6 ft tall and 26BMI. !!

jim
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Ummm......BMI of 25 or over carries additional health risks.
Much better than a BMI of 30, of course, but somewhere around 22.5 might be even better :-)
I'm possibly a bit too focused on this at the moment because I'm trying to get my BMI down.
Six foot tall, this morning 11 stone 12 lbs - BMI of 22.6.

Talked to my GP this morning and as my urate levels are mid point in the 'normal' range it is very unlikely to be gout.
So probably some other variant of arthritis.
Treatment is the same anyway, but I can perhaps have more purine rich foods.

Cheers

LGC
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Ummm......BMI of 25 or over carries additional health risks.
Much better than a BMI of 30, of course, but somewhere around 22.5 might be even better :)
I'm possibly a bit too focused on this at the moment because I'm trying to get my BMI down.
Six foot tall, this morning 11 stone 12 lbs - BMI of 22.6.

Talked to my GP this morning and as my urate levels are mid point in the 'normal' range it is very unlikely to be gout.
So probably some other variant of arthritis.
Treatment is the same anyway, but I can perhaps have more purine rich foods.

Cheers

LGC
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Hi. I have had gout on and off for a couple of years soooooo painful, I can't take the pill they make me feel sick. I take dynamic cherry juice consentrate get it on Amazon. And it really does work. It has no added sugar not that high in carbs. I put it in some fizzy water. The only drew back is its expensive. There are other ones on there too. i haven't had gout for a long while now. Don't get the ones that don't put the carb amount on.
 
jim1951 said:
As well as type 2 I have Gout. Have had it for a number of years. I am on Allupurinol for it and although my Uric acid levels are well controlled my Gout attacks aren't!

I have struggled with diets because it appears they contradict. With Gout high protein foods cause excess purines etc. Chicken and oily fish are bad for gout and some of the good diabetic vegetables are also bad. What is good for gout is high carb diet!! Amongst the allowed items are rice, pasta, bread, juicy fruits, sugar (yes),relishes.

I try to eat to a diabetic regime but still get gout attacks because of this.

A glass of red wine is not detrimental for type 2 but as for gout............!

Are other people with both conditions struggling? If not how to you balance what you eat?

jim
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Hi i can understand your situation, i have suffered gout off and on and had it before i became a diabetic, the pain can be real bad,flair ups can happen even now, however the uric acid you mention if your prone to high levels it is important to look at your food and drinks you consume that triggers off the attacks once you know what they are then you can eliminate those from your diet and eat the foods that you know is safe for the gout and diabetes,it can be tricky working it out so best thing to do is keep a food diary, with the date and time on what you ate and when you have a gout attack, and note it down you will find the picture will become clear the main culprit causing the gout, once you got that sorted out it will make life easier to stick to a diet that works for you with the diabetes.sometimes food may not be the cause it could be a drink or something like stress or another underlying problem your not aware of, even the shoes you wear can trigger it off.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Ummm......BMI of 25 or over carries additional health risks.
Much better than a BMI of 30, of course, but somewhere around 22.5 might be even better :)
I'm possibly a bit too focused on this at the moment because I'm trying to get my BMI down.
Six foot tall, this morning 11 stone 12 lbs - BMI of 22.6.

Talked to my GP this morning and as my urate levels are mid point in the 'normal' range it is very unlikely to be gout.
So probably some other variant of arthritis.
Treatment is the same anyway, but I can perhaps have more purine rich foods.

Cheers

LGC
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LGC

bear in mind that my uric acid levels are normal but I still get gout attacks.

jim
 
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