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One meal I've been having when I get home is:

In a small ovenproof dish , for one:

2 eggs and beat
Add 50g cheese
+ 10g ground almonds
+ 10g linseed
+ 50g mixed frozen veg
+ quorn sausage or real sausage

Basically add what you like! Sometimes i put in cherry tomatoes inStead bake it in the oven and it rises up a little.

It's nice with a little salad.

Sometimes I add the almonds and linseed to eggs and make a large omelette. I use it as a wrap for grilled chicken and salad.


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Ally, sometjmes too much information at one time can make it difficult to know where to start. I'm fairly sure I read somewhere that you suffer from depression, that alone can make it hard to accept changes need to be made.

Can I suggest something simple to start with? But you need to start it now, straight away, because your levels are very high and they are doing damage to you.
No more bread, not even a slice. For the time being swap that for crispbread, Ryvita Rye is quite tasty and fairly cheap. Cut your potato, rice and pasta consumption by two thirds, even by half. So, if you have three spuds with your meal, just have one. Same with pasta and rice, if you had three spoonfuls, only have one. The rest of the plate can be filled with some dark green veggies or salad at the side. That is easy to do and not too hard for you to figure out and it can only help your blood glucose level, you should see results quickly.

What you can't do is to sit back and do nothing because you're not sure what you should do with your diet. I've given you a really simple way to get started and you will soon get used to having less of the stuff that makes you feel ill.

No excuses now, time to deal with it. You can do it..good luck!

PS. Why not write down what you have in a day and post it here. We can give you some ideas on where you may be going wrong.

I don't think with a BS level of 33 that you can sit about waiting for dietician appointment.You need to be proactive now. Cut out bread, spuds, pasta and rice and eat low carb vegetables. You can have lovely cauli and cheese mash , a cooked breakfast , berries and cream or yogurt, but you must get in to habit of testing and eating to your meter. I might be wrong in thinking this, but I tend to think that at as type 2 , a lot of the end result is in our hands- meds can only so much- the rest has to come from you. My great granny died of a stroke and diabetic induced coma through uncontrolled diabetes and that thought keeps me going when I feel like passing the buck to my health care team.

cold ethyl said:

I don't think with a BS level of 33 that you can sit about waiting for dietician appointment.You need to be proactive now. Cut out bread, spuds, pasta and rice and eat low carb vegetables. You can have lovely cauli and cheese mash , a cooked breakfast , berries and cream or yogurt, but you must get in to habit of testing and eating to your meter. I might be wrong in thinking this, but I tend to think that at as type 2 , a lot of the end result is in our hands- meds can only so much- the rest has to come from you. My great granny died of a stroke and diabetic induced coma through uncontrolled diabetes and that thought keeps me going when I feel like passing the buck to my health care team.

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So agree with advice. However if you do suffer from depression then it can make things harder to get the motivation to change.

If you can change and accept the advice that all of these good people have been telling you for a while, then you will get phenomenal support....

It is only you that can make these changes. People have given you pretty much the same advice previously. You do not have to wait to see a dietician, you could make the changes suggested.... What have you got to lose from trying?-oh yes, your health problems...


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Ally you are really sick. But you know this. Yoghurt and berries for brekkie, fish or meat with loads of veggies for dinner omelet for lunch. You've got nothing to lose! Big hug!

Have you had you vitamin D checked? Strong links with low vitamin D and depression.

Regarding diet I agree with the advice given by others, but want to add fat is good for you and may eve help with mood. Fat has no effect on bg, will help normalise weight and cholesterol and make you stay full longer. Butter, olive oil, lard, coconut oil, duck and goose fat for example.

At the risk of appearing cruel, no one can love bread and potatoes as much as me, but I just happen to love my eyes and limbs that bit more. Depression is awful ( I suffer from it and anxiety) but feeding yourself correctly to lower BS will help with that as well as improving your overall health. It is not good to be running such high BS levels for any length of time. You will get a lot of advice and support on here but only you can make the changes needed. I'd suggest going cold turkey on all the carbs mentioned as that way you don't have them in the house and one slice of bread doesn't become two. It is hard, there's no denying it, but once you lose weight and get BS levels in single figures, then you can start to add the odd carb product back in if the meter shows an ok reading. Try looking at the what have you eaten today thread on the low carb forum. No one is starving and all the meals sound lovely. People will hold your hand, but you have to take the first step.

ally1 said:

thank you all for the advice re diet
yes i suffer with depression as well, at the moment i,m still very over whelmed by all the information on diabetes
main trouble is that i love bread and rice, luckily i don,t like pasta. i know i have to change drastically with my diet

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Hi Ally, I suffer with depression too and take medication for it, so I know how easy it is to 'comfort eat' when we are feeling down, but it only becomes a vicious circle. But one thing I found is, since I lowered my carb intake to about 100g a day (you need a carb counter book for this really), and my BS started to come down, plus I began losing weight, my depression improved a lot and I've been able to halve my medication. I don't know if eating lots of unrefined carbs makes depression worse, but, cutting them out really made a difference for me. Yes, I still get down at times and am tempted to phone out for a takeaway but then I stop and think 'do I want to undo all the good work I've done?', so I end up having some dark ryvitas with butter and cheese or peanut butter with no sugar jam. I do know that if I had white flour in any form, or rice or potatoes within 20 minutes I would be asleep, had no control over it, and something which makes us feel that lethargic is no friend of depression!
You can do this, Ally.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/category/health-problems/depression

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Do bear in mind Ally that the more carbs you eat the more you want, they are made to be addictive, something to do with serotonin I think.

I've suffered with depression for over 20 years. In 2008 I was absent from work for 8 months because of it. I'm convinced the medication contributed to the length of my illness. I stopped taking it once I returned to work and, although I can get very anxious at busy times, I've been fine.

I read somewhere that antidepressants can cause increase in weight.

If you can just take the new eating regime one day at a time it will work, you'll see. Success breeds success too. Good luck


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ally1 said:

cold ethyl, i had toast this morning and thats the last of the loaf so have now gone cold turkey
thank you for your advice

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Go Ally! I would go one step further! Go through cupboards and get rid of all rice, carby stuff, cake, biscuits. And the freezer too! Give it to someone. If you don't have it, you can't eat it!it was the first thing I did! I plan all our meals in advance and shop weekly where possible so that I'm not tempted. You'll be amazed at how much cash you'll save and let's face it you'll need it to buy the new wardrobe for when you become the new svelte you! I don't suffer from depression but I was amazed at the impact LCHF had on my mood. I became a lot more chilled which was nice for everyone around me!

ally1 said:

peacetrain, i,m on 2 different anti depressants and one is notorious for weight gain

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Is one of them Mirtrazapine or something like that? I never took them after googling side effects and I wasn't even depressed at the time either, only fatigued but my GP was at a loss and wanted to make me better by the limited means she new of, bless her .

Shortly afterwards I decided to self medicate with thyroid hormones and have since regained my health. In the mean time I sorted my vitamin D deficiency and that has had a huge impact on my mood in the winter.

Ally has PTSD and her depression is related to that.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/type2-and-depression.59958/#post-570573

She really needs more help with that to overcome her depression.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/type2-and-depression.59958/#post-571311

Ally, I think you have to be more assertive with your G.P. as the anti-depressants do not seem to be resolving the problem. Three years on and you are still taking ant-depressants with no end in sight. Can you make an appointment and tell him that you need more help? Do you find it difficult to state your needs to your Doctor? Talking therapies or even groups work much better. You have probably got so used to feeling how you do that you may have decided that there is nothing that anyone can do. The help is out there but you have to ask for it. The diagnosis of diabetes has added to the depression because you feel you have been inundated with advice that you are finding hard to process. That is something that lots of people find, it is called information overload. Take things steady, learn a bit at a time and don't make drastic changes until you are sure of what you are doing. You don't have to be in control in a week's time, it will take longer than that.

I am sending you a virtual hug because I have suffered with PTSD in the past. I spent a few weeks as an inpatient in a centre that catered for sufferers. It was the best thing that I did and it brought me out the other side. ((((hugs)))). The programme was intense and upsetting at times but one thing I learned was that PTSD does not mean that people are weak who suffer from it, they are some of the strongest people. You have to open up to psychologist led groups and everyone has skeletons in their cupboards that end up getting discussed by the group. Nobody judges you, some people have horrific life stories to tell and you end up knowing that life can be a real b**ch for many of us. The good thing for me is that we all still meet up once a year and have formed friendships. If you feel that is too intense for you then ask for some more psychology appointments.

For people who are not aware of how PTSD can manifest itself, the following article is a good explanation.
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/healthadvice/problemsdisorders/posttraumaticstressdisorder.aspx