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I only use them when I drive now. I’ve done a few comparison tests - a blood followed by a scan at 5, 10, 15 &20 minutes intervals, and when it’s in the range of 4-8mmol it’s spot on for me. So I rely on it quite happily to bolus and correct, but as I’m very low carb my doses and corrections are tiny, so the risk of overcompensating is very small. Half units, quite often.I bet a few type2s would like the libre too.
How often do you still use regular testing strips now then?
No, trigeminal neuralgia is very different. When you bite, or chew, or in my case (because it’s more complicated than most, of course it flippin’ is!) even salivate, you get an electric shock in the jaw like you’ve had a shock from the 240v mains. The pain is regarded as a 10/10 on the standard NHS pain scale, up there with gallstones (and I had those just after my son was born, so completely agree). It’s had me on the floor screaming in agony - and the treatment for it are harsh, and often don’t work. It’s known as ‘suicide disease” because it’s so awful to live with. It’s a short circuit in the big trigeminal nerve that runs along the jaw, in my case the problem is in the branch that controls the salivary gland. The pain is very short, just a second or two, but is so intense that it’s life altering. Anything that made my mouth water would trigger it - my worst nightmare was having a hypo and being forced to eat glucose tablets, as they always triggered the pain.@Mel dCP I remember when I was in burn out a few years ago and I got scatica then this inflammation in my jaw, it was horrendous. I couldn't open my mouth wide. I blamed it on needing to book a dentist. It went once house move stress settled down. Occasionally I get lock jaw for a few seconds. Is this the same as you experience?
Oh great. That's OK then.There's never any guarantee.
Wow. Its fascinating but I bet down right uncomfortable and occasionally worrying. Sounds like specialist in on the ball for you thou.I only use them when I drive now. I’ve done a few comparison tests - a blood followed by a scan at 5, 10, 15 &20 minutes intervals, and when it’s in the range of 4-8mmol it’s spot on for me. So I rely on it quite happily to bolus and correct, but as I’m very low carb my doses and corrections are tiny, so the risk of overcompensating is very small. Half units, quite often.
No, trigeminal neuralgia is very different. When you bite, or chew, or in my case (because it’s more complicated than most, of course it flippin’ is!) even salivate, you get an electric shock in the jaw like you’ve had a shock from the 240v mains. The pain is regarded as a 10/10 on the standard NHS pain scale, up there with gallstones (and I had those just after my son was born, so completely agree). It’s had me on the floor screaming in agony - and the treatment for it are harsh, and often don’t work. It’s known as ‘suicide disease” because it’s so awful to live with. It’s a short circuit in the big trigeminal nerve that runs along the jaw, in my case the problem is in the branch that controls the salivary gland. The pain is very short, just a second or two, but is so intense that it’s life altering. Anything that made my mouth water would trigger it - my worst nightmare was having a hypo and being forced to eat glucose tablets, as they always triggered the pain.
I just get the odd mild twinge now, which I can live with completely unmedicated. And I’ve not had one of those for days now, they’re getting less and less.
We are expected to do our best to avoid any complication. You have educated yourself here so now your forearmed. More than most people I know in real life.Oh great. That's OK then.
Also remember that about 50% of people with type1 now have type2 (inslin restiance) and hence a lower A1c due to using a lot more inslin is unlikley to be of benfit to them unless their A1c was high to start with.
It’s the worst pain I’ve ever been in, and I’ve had gallstonesWow. Its fascinating but I bet down right uncomfortable and occasionally worrying. Sounds like specialist in on the ball for you thou.
Yes, very unusual complication, I'd thought?
This is unbelievable she should be praising you not moaning well done youRant alert
I had a raft of blood tests last Friday to investigate why I’ve been getting blood pressure drops when I stand up, and the nurse asked if I’d like her to take an HbA1c while she was at it - I jumped at it because my last one covered one month of no Libre and lots of carbs (and Christmas) plus two with Libre and keto, so didn’t really give me an accurate picture of how things have improved since I got it.
Phone rang this afternoon, it was the practice nurse. She just said that they’d got my results and my HbA1c was 43. And then silence. I assumed it was to give me time to gush, and I said how thrilled I was with such a good result. More silence.
They want me to drop my insulin and get it back up to 50.
I said no way, that 43 comes under “excellent control” on the chart they have on their wall, and that I was delighted. Cue a lecture about hypos, and I tried to explain that I don’t really have any, maybe one mild one a week (never at night), and that I never drop below 3mmol. She actually said she didn’t believe me! And wants me to come in so I can have hypos explained to me. I explained that having had T1 for 20 years, I was very experienced at having hypos, but I’m now managing it in such a way with my Libre as to make sure I don’t get them, and explained the “sugar surfing” methods of a glucose tab here, half a unit there to nudge my sugars into range if they’re drifting off. Apparently I must be having night hypos! I’m going to have to go in armed with printouts of my Libre traces to prove that I’m not - I haven’t had a night hypo since flippin’ January! We had the driving conversation and I explained that I run my sugars a little higher (6-7mmol) to drive, and she said I should be aiming for TEN
So that’s rather taken the shine off a result I’ve been working so hard to accomplish.
I also got cholesterol numbers, but I’m not quite sure how to interpret them, can the hive mind help? She didn’t seem too happy about those either.
Total 6.2; HDL 4.2; LDL 3.7; Trigs 1.2
Anyway, I’m seeing my GP at the end of the month to discuss it all, looks like I’ll have to go armed with my lever arch file of results and dig out the battle handbag again
/rant
"50%."
Do you have any links to this statistic?
Well done! Don’t be put off by this nurse. She clearly does not have a clue what she’s talking about!Rant alert
I had a raft of blood tests last Friday to investigate why I’ve been getting blood pressure drops when I stand up, and the nurse asked if I’d like her to take an HbA1c while she was at it - I jumped at it because my last one covered one month of no Libre and lots of carbs (and Christmas) plus two with Libre and keto, so didn’t really give me an accurate picture of how things have improved since I got it.
Phone rang this afternoon, it was the practice nurse. She just said that they’d got my results and my HbA1c was 43. And then silence. I assumed it was to give me time to gush, and I said how thrilled I was with such a good result. More silence.
They want me to drop my insulin and get it back up to 50.
I said no way, that 43 comes under “excellent control” on the chart they have on their wall, and that I was delighted. Cue a lecture about hypos, and I tried to explain that I don’t really have any, maybe one mild one a week (never at night), and that I never drop below 3mmol. She actually said she didn’t believe me! And wants me to come in so I can have hypos explained to me. I explained that having had T1 for 20 years, I was very experienced at having hypos, but I’m now managing it in such a way with my Libre as to make sure I don’t get them, and explained the “sugar surfing” methods of a glucose tab here, half a unit there to nudge my sugars into range if they’re drifting off. Apparently I must be having night hypos! I’m going to have to go in armed with printouts of my Libre traces to prove that I’m not - I haven’t had a night hypo since flippin’ January! We had the driving conversation and I explained that I run my sugars a little higher (6-7mmol) to drive, and she said I should be aiming for TEN
So that’s rather taken the shine off a result I’ve been working so hard to accomplish.
I also got cholesterol numbers, but I’m not quite sure how to interpret them, can the hive mind help? She didn’t seem too happy about those either.
Total 6.2; HDL 4.2; LDL 3.7; Trigs 1.2
Anyway, I’m seeing my GP at the end of the month to discuss it all, looks like I’ll have to go armed with my lever arch file of results and dig out the battle handbag again
/rant
I suspect they’re not yet used to seeing the massively improved management that Libre gives to type ones, and just assume that you’re only able to get such low results by swinging around all over the place and having a hypo every five minutes.
The numbers I have seen are from the USA and based on the level of inslin resistance that would give someone type2 if they did not have type1. Sorry I don't have a link to hand.
No one can drink as much full suger soda as is common without getting lots of health problems....
Rant alert
I had a raft of blood tests last Friday to investigate why I’ve been getting blood pressure drops when I stand up, and the nurse asked if I’d like her to take an HbA1c while she was at it - I jumped at it because my last one covered one month of no Libre and lots of carbs (and Christmas) plus two with Libre and keto, so didn’t really give me an accurate picture of how things have improved since I got it.
Phone rang this afternoon, it was the practice nurse. She just said that they’d got my results and my HbA1c was 43. And then silence. I assumed it was to give me time to gush, and I said how thrilled I was with such a good result. More silence.
They want me to drop my insulin and get it back up to 50.
I said no way, that 43 comes under “excellent control” on the chart they have on their wall, and that I was delighted. Cue a lecture about hypos, and I tried to explain that I don’t really have any, maybe one mild one a week (never at night), and that I never drop below 3mmol. She actually said she didn’t believe me! And wants me to come in so I can have hypos explained to me. I explained that having had T1 for 20 years, I was very experienced at having hypos, but I’m now managing it in such a way with my Libre as to make sure I don’t get them, and explained the “sugar surfing” methods of a glucose tab here, half a unit there to nudge my sugars into range if they’re drifting off. Apparently I must be having night hypos! I’m going to have to go in armed with printouts of my Libre traces to prove that I’m not - I haven’t had a night hypo since flippin’ January! We had the driving conversation and I explained that I run my sugars a little higher (6-7mmol) to drive, and she said I should be aiming for TEN
So that’s rather taken the shine off a result I’ve been working so hard to accomplish.
I also got cholesterol numbers, but I’m not quite sure how to interpret them, can the hive mind help? She didn’t seem too happy about those either.
Total 6.2; HDL 4.2; LDL 3.7; Trigs 1.2
Anyway, I’m seeing my GP at the end of the month to discuss it all, looks like I’ll have to go armed with my lever arch file of results and dig out the battle handbag again
/rant
I think it explicity states that the higher target is for those on hypo inducing medication eg Glicazide.To prevent diabetic complications, the target HBA1C is 48 and below.
I don’t understand why some doctors are advising Type 1s to aim for minimum 50-53 ?
Is it to prevent hypos?
What about preventing diabetic complications ie amputations, blindness, kidney failure, stroke etc?
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