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Have I got Diabetes or not?

Busbar

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Hi this is my first post on the forum so I would be grateful for any advice. I am a 63 year old man, I have no health problems apart from high blood pressure which has been well under control since I was diagnosed 10 years ago, and a bad back. I am about two and a half stone over weight. When I went for my annual health check I had a GTT and the result was 6.8 at the start and after two hours 11.9,as a result of this the nurse sent me for the HBA1C test. When I went back for the result the nurse, after the usual pleasantries just said you have got diabetes, I was quite surprised, and she made me an appointment for a consultation about diabetes treatment and care. At the subsequent appointment I was given all the relevant info for diabetes treatment and the suggestion that I would be given medication. At this point I asked what the result of the HBA1C test was and she said it was 37, I am assuming this is 37mmol/mol. After doing a bit of searching online I believe that a score of below 42 is normal. So my question is have I got Diabetes or not? Also can the score be too low?

Thank you
 
@Busbar Not being a health care pro I couldn't possibly say. But your GTT suggests that all is not well. At the very least you have Insulin Resistance, which is a precursor to Type 2 Diabetes.
It may pay you to reduce your carbohydrate intake. That alone may help you with the extra lbs
 
After doing a bit of searching online I believe that a score of below 42 is normal.
Yes, in the UK anything up to and including 41 is considered normal. However, lots of research studies have shown that anything above 31 brings an increased risk of heart attack, so IMO it would definitely be worth making the effort to reduce your blood glucose further now while it's not so very high. You might well find there are unexpected payoffs. For instance, in response to an A1c of 41 last July I started reducing the carbs in my diet and to my amazement my lower back pain has all but disappeared along with the stiffness in my knees! It was only after I noticed this that I read up about it and found that, yes, even not very elevated bg can cause disk and joint problems. Also my really bad reflux problems have gone! So never mind the label, diabetes or not, lowering your bg could work wonders for you and I'd encourage you to go for it.
 
Thanks walnut face, as for GTT I may have spoiled the test, I did the 12 hr fast but I think I overindulged before that, out for a meal and a few drinks. I agree I need to lose weight, this might be the thing that spurs me on.
 
Thanks Alexandra I have already started on a reduced carbs diet.
 
It looks like you are hovering on the border line between T2 and pre-diabetic.

Your fasting BG wasn't good but it was below the levels said to be diabetes, which is 7mmol/l, but is in the pre-diabetic range. The 2 hour level of 11.9 was over the diabetes cut off point by 0.8mmol/l, (above 11.1 is diabetic), but as your HbA1c was within the non-diabetic range, it is hard to say whether you should be labelled T2 or pre-diabetic. Either way, you can get these numbers down with some tweaks to your diet and a bit of effort. In one way, it is better to be registered as T2 because you should receive more frequent blood checks and reviews than a pre-diabetic, and be offered annual foot checks and retinal screening.

Medication is not normally offered initially, with a review in 3 months. This would give you chance to use diet and a bit of added exercise to try and bring your numbers down without taking pills. If it is offered, it is obviously your choice whether to accept or not.

@daisy1 will be along soon with a very informative post for newcomers. Meanwhile, have a good read round and ask as many questions as you like.
 
I have to go back in 3 months to repeat the tests, in the mean time I intend to give it my best shot and change my lifestyle, lose weight and have a healthy low carb diet and see how it goes. Years ago I tried the Atkins diet to lose weight and did so very successfully losing over 2 stone but the weight crept back on, any advice on a more user friendly low carb diet or links to good sites would be greatly appreciated.
 
@Busbar

Hello Busbar and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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