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<blockquote data-quote="Geocacher" data-source="post: 376413" data-attributes="member: 32611"><p>It's not surprising to see the UAE, Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, Oman and Bahrain in the top group as the adopt a more American/European lifestyle in cultures where excess was rarely known in previous generations. What surprises me is how low the UK is with all the noise being made by the NHS. I've often wondered if rationing being still present into the 1950's has meant that the UK is slightly less affected by the modern plague of diabetes simply because their exposure to suspect chemicals would have been more limited. Interesting that meat was a heavily rationed product, as well as eggs and butter, not horrible things to eat but more likely to carry a chemical burden from modern farming.</p><p></p><p>Tonga, Naura, Reunion and the majority of the small pacific islands are an interesting story. Having survived by subsistence fishing and farming for generations they now have a diet that is sure death. 'Lamb flaps' from New Zealand and Australia, Corned Beef from North and South America with a higher fat content than allowed in those countries, Spam - we all know what that is, and lard rather than vegetable oils because it's cheaper, and white rice as their staple carbohydrate. Overfishing means that the pacific islanders have become more and more reliant on imported foods and high shipping costs coupled with low income mean they get the worst foods available. Often foods not even offered for sale or put into pet food in the countries of origin and often from countries where banned farming practices are still allowed. Fat is known to have a higher content of residual medications and chemicals. Is it any wonder?</p><p></p><p>It's good that detrimental farming practices are slowly being stopped, but the damage already done will likely last for generations. Studies have shown that epigenetic changes can last for four or more generations in even simple organisms like daphnia. How long will they last in humans and can they be reversed? There are some interesting studies being done with mice that show that epigentic changes can sometimes be turned off in offspring by ensuring that the mother gets adequate levels of specific nutrients in pregnancy. Perhaps that will lead to means to help prevent diabetes in humans?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geocacher, post: 376413, member: 32611"] It's not surprising to see the UAE, Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, Oman and Bahrain in the top group as the adopt a more American/European lifestyle in cultures where excess was rarely known in previous generations. What surprises me is how low the UK is with all the noise being made by the NHS. I've often wondered if rationing being still present into the 1950's has meant that the UK is slightly less affected by the modern plague of diabetes simply because their exposure to suspect chemicals would have been more limited. Interesting that meat was a heavily rationed product, as well as eggs and butter, not horrible things to eat but more likely to carry a chemical burden from modern farming. Tonga, Naura, Reunion and the majority of the small pacific islands are an interesting story. Having survived by subsistence fishing and farming for generations they now have a diet that is sure death. 'Lamb flaps' from New Zealand and Australia, Corned Beef from North and South America with a higher fat content than allowed in those countries, Spam - we all know what that is, and lard rather than vegetable oils because it's cheaper, and white rice as their staple carbohydrate. Overfishing means that the pacific islanders have become more and more reliant on imported foods and high shipping costs coupled with low income mean they get the worst foods available. Often foods not even offered for sale or put into pet food in the countries of origin and often from countries where banned farming practices are still allowed. Fat is known to have a higher content of residual medications and chemicals. Is it any wonder? It's good that detrimental farming practices are slowly being stopped, but the damage already done will likely last for generations. Studies have shown that epigenetic changes can last for four or more generations in even simple organisms like daphnia. How long will they last in humans and can they be reversed? There are some interesting studies being done with mice that show that epigentic changes can sometimes be turned off in offspring by ensuring that the mother gets adequate levels of specific nutrients in pregnancy. Perhaps that will lead to means to help prevent diabetes in humans? [/QUOTE]
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