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<blockquote data-quote="DCUKMod" data-source="post: 2176065" data-attributes="member: 345386"><p>I hate to be picky Ian, but you make definite statements that aren't necessarily so. In the order of your post:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Unfortunately though all T2's are Insulin Resistant,"</li> </ul><p>Not all T2s are insulin resistant, although I would agree the vast majority are. There are those who are insulin sensitive, but just don't generate enough to cope with their chosen diet. It could be that over time, dependent on the tests done, they may be reclassified, but they are out there.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"There are 3 proven methods to gain remission of T2D"</li> </ul><p>If it were true that one of those three methods would resolve T2, there would be far fewer T2s, even already at these early days of understanding the metabolic syndrome.</p><p></p><p>1. Low Carb way of eating (not necessarily a Calorie restriction). </p><p>This site's Low Carb Programme's published data cites c40% into "remission", if I recall. Longer terms rates are awaited, as they become available.</p><p>2. Restricted Eating period also called Intermittent Fasting (IF) or 16:8.</p><p>I haven't seen any stats for this, although that could be because although I do eat in a window facilitating a slightly extended fasting period, it has never been a targeted tool by myself. If you have published stats for that, I'd be interested to read them.</p><p></p><p>3. Severe Calorie restriction by:</p><p>A). Longer term fasting - I have no idea what the stats say about that, but I doubt it's 100%, except those who fast until expiry.</p><p>B). Crash diet e.g. Newcastle diet - Professor Taylor's work, from memory returns a remission rate of c36%,from memory, with longer terms rates awaited</p><p>C). Bariatric Surgery - I don't believe bariatric surgery cures everyone, else we'd all have gone onto the waiting lists somewhat pronto?</p><p></p><p>If you have stats for 100% or near 100% success rates, I'd be interested to read the papers supporting the numbers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DCUKMod, post: 2176065, member: 345386"] I hate to be picky Ian, but you make definite statements that aren't necessarily so. In the order of your post: [LIST] [*]"Unfortunately though all T2's are Insulin Resistant," [/LIST] Not all T2s are insulin resistant, although I would agree the vast majority are. There are those who are insulin sensitive, but just don't generate enough to cope with their chosen diet. It could be that over time, dependent on the tests done, they may be reclassified, but they are out there. [LIST] [*]"There are 3 proven methods to gain remission of T2D" [/LIST] If it were true that one of those three methods would resolve T2, there would be far fewer T2s, even already at these early days of understanding the metabolic syndrome. 1. Low Carb way of eating (not necessarily a Calorie restriction). This site's Low Carb Programme's published data cites c40% into "remission", if I recall. Longer terms rates are awaited, as they become available. 2. Restricted Eating period also called Intermittent Fasting (IF) or 16:8. I haven't seen any stats for this, although that could be because although I do eat in a window facilitating a slightly extended fasting period, it has never been a targeted tool by myself. If you have published stats for that, I'd be interested to read them. 3. Severe Calorie restriction by: A). Longer term fasting - I have no idea what the stats say about that, but I doubt it's 100%, except those who fast until expiry. B). Crash diet e.g. Newcastle diet - Professor Taylor's work, from memory returns a remission rate of c36%,from memory, with longer terms rates awaited C). Bariatric Surgery - I don't believe bariatric surgery cures everyone, else we'd all have gone onto the waiting lists somewhat pronto? If you have stats for 100% or near 100% success rates, I'd be interested to read the papers supporting the numbers. [/QUOTE]
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