Head Ready to explode

[Paul1976]

Oh i forgot to mention,the Tea and coffee comes with sweetex tablets and no sugar BUT there was plenty of biscuits on offer which were demolished VERY quickly by the 2 ladies running it and the other people who attended. :crazy:

 

[angieG]

Thats what I was getting at Didie..I put in my own weight, then three different weights (vastly different by the way) and they all came up with the same plan. the exception is for the highest weight possible, think it was 21 stone.

They advised 9..yes 9..tablespoons of cereal. Think that was waht it said..am open to corrections of course.[/quote]


Yes it did say 9....I tried that too!! So the fatter you are the more carbs you eat to lose weight then??? :***:
I would be back in the 20+'s following this menu that's for sure!! No wonder diabetics cost the NHS a fortune!!

Angie

 

[Paul1976]

9 tablespoons of cereal? :shock: :shock: I didn't have that much even when I was non diabetic. 'All hail Tony the Tiger' as apparently "They're GREAT!!!!"

 

[Defren]

9 tablespoons of cereal? :shock: :shock: I didn't have that much even when I was non diabetic. 'All hail Tony the Tiger' as apparently "They're GREAT!!!!"

Tony the tiger may be, the DUK diet advice certainly is not!!

 

[Paul1976]

9 tablespoons of cereal? :shock: :shock: I didn't have that much even when I was non diabetic. 'All hail Tony the Tiger' as apparently "They're GREAT!!!!"

Tony the tiger may be, the DUK diet advice certainly is not!!

Yeah,when I was newly diagnosed i had a look at it but it just mimicked "Nurse Deaths" dietary advice that was making my levels increase so i never went back to that site after that.

 

[Defren]

9 tablespoons of cereal? :shock: :shock: I didn't have that much even when I was non diabetic. 'All hail Tony the Tiger' as apparently "They're GREAT!!!!"

Tony the tiger may be, the DUK diet advice certainly is not!!

Yeah,when I was newly diagnosed i had a look at it but it just mimicked "Nurse Deaths" dietary advice that was making my levels increase so i never went back to that site after that.

Probably one of the best choices you will ever make Paul. :lol:

 

[Robinredbreast]

I have been doing so good and like I have said before I have lost weight and feel so much better on a low carb diet...I have energy I can walk no problem (still smoking ) The other :wink: :wink: is amazing My eyesight is better!!!

AND NOW :x Everyone wants to be in on it ( i know they mean good) They showed me this website http://www.storetour.co.uk/default.htm and told me that I SHOULD eat carbs...So everything I have done is Bleeping out the water...OR is it

Guidance please!!!

Hello I hope you are well. You are the one who knows your own body and what is working well for you. I wish you lots of luck ( you sound as though you are doing all the right things) and if it ain't broken, don't fix it :thumbup:

 

[Paul1976]

Absolutely! :thumbup: It's all about tweaking until you find control,some need to tweak more,some need to tweak less but whatever level you're at,if you're in control of your Diabetes then It's all good!

 

[xyzzy]

I put in all my details into the menu planner, this was my menu - eek!! I think I'll pass.

Your requirements have been estimated from the data you entered. Your sample daily menu is below. Remember that this is only a guide and a starting point to help you with portion sizes. Foods in the menu plan can be interchanged - it is important to eat a varied and balanced diet. Talk to your registered dietitian for specific advice about your diet.

Breakfast

Small glass of fruit juice or a portion of fruit (see below for what's a portion)
4 tablespoons of muesli or 4 tablespoons of porridge oats or 2 weetabix or 2 shredded wheat or 6 tablespoons of other cereal with 200mls semi-skimmed/skimmed milk
or
2 slices of toast or 2 crumpets or 1 bagel or 1 muffin with 2 teaspoons of sunflower or olive oil spread and 2 teaspoons jam/marmalade/honey

Lunch

sandwich made with 2 slices bread or 1 bread roll or 1 pitta or 1 tortilla/wrap or 4 crispbreads with salad and
2-3 oz (60 - 85g) of cooked meat/poultry or vegetarian alternative or 4 - 5 oz (120 - 140g) tuna/sardines/mackerel or 3 1/2 oz (100g) cooked prawns or 2 boiled eggs
2 teaspoons low fat mayonnaise
with 2 teaspoons of sunflower or olive oil spread
Dessert: 1 low fat or diet yogurt

Dinner

6 tablespoons pasta/cous-cous/noodles or 4 tablespoons easy cook rice/basmati rice/bulgar wheat or 4 egg sized potatoes
with 6 tablepsoons vegetables or large portion of salad with low calorie dressing
2-3 oz (60 - 85g) of meat/poultry or 4 - 5 oz (120 - 140g) fish or 2 eggs or vegetarian alternative or 3 tablespoons pulses, beans or lentils
Dessert: 1 scoop ice cream and a portion of fruit (see below for what's a portion)

Additional daily milk allowance

1/3 pint (200mls) milk
Snacks

2 portions fruit and 1 biscuit. 1 portion = 1 banana, apple, orange, pear. 1 slice of a large fruit like melon or mango. 2 small fruit such as plums or apricots, handful of grapes, cherries or berries. 1 tablespoon of dried fruit


This is menu C.

That really is outrageous the amount of carbohydrate in that would kill a herd of diabetic elephants. What gets me is the amount of sugar it's as if they don't realise that SUGAR is CARBOHYDRATE.

How on earth does that relate to even their own guidelines

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Reports/Nutritional_guidelines200911.pdf

Let alone the ADA 2011 ones that they reference throughout http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/34/Supplement_1/S11.full.pdf+html It has a 130g RDA recommendation.

 

[Anonymous]

Just do what you know works for you by using your meter. Just bear in mind that as the years pass things can change... so it's like you have to continually adjust things anyhow.

I personally do eat carbs... but not all carbs agree with me. I fair better with grain carbs than I do with vegetable carbs. I'm in real danger of super BGL swings on vegetable carbs. Although I still eat small amounts at times.

It's all trial and error. I did low carbing at one point and increased my meats, etc.... only to have my cholesterol LDL go through the roof. I quickly changed my diet back to reduced fat.

I think at the end of the day it's about balance... and everyone is different.

 

[Defren]

Just do what you know works for you by using your meter. Just bear in mind that as the years pass things can change... so it's like you have to continually adjust things anyhow.

I personally do eat carbs... but not all carbs agree with me. I fair better with grain carbs than I do with vegetable carbs. I'm in real danger of super BGL swings on vegetable carbs. Although I still eat small amounts at times.

It's all trial and error. I did low carbing at one point and increased my meats, etc.... only to have my cholesterol LDL go through the roof. I quickly changed my diet back to reduced fat.

I think at the end of the day it's about balance... and everyone is different.

Exactly, and (no disrespect to ANY insulin user) but there is a big difference between what an insulin user can eat, and an diet only or medication/diet only can tolerate. However, the advice given is a one size fits all, which I believe is very wrong!

 

[Anonymous]

Just do what you know works for you by using your meter. Just bear in mind that as the years pass things can change... so it's like you have to continually adjust things anyhow.

I personally do eat carbs... but not all carbs agree with me. I fair better with grain carbs than I do with vegetable carbs. I'm in real danger of super BGL swings on vegetable carbs. Although I still eat small amounts at times.

It's all trial and error. I did low carbing at one point and increased my meats, etc.... only to have my cholesterol LDL go through the roof. I quickly changed my diet back to reduced fat.

I think at the end of the day it's about balance... and everyone is different.

Exactly, and (no disrespect to ANY insulin user) but there is a big difference between what an insulin user can eat, and an diet only or medication/diet only can tolerate. However, the advice given is a one size fits all, which I believe is very wrong!

Yes Defren.... and I've had the experience with all of the treatments pretty much.... now I'm on insulin. But I'm still careful about what I eat. I don't agree with people saying that people on insulin can eat anything.... in my experience that isn't correct. No matter what stage you're at with your management... you have to tweak that's just how it is. People who think insulin users have it easier are dreaming. I still find management just as tricky as I did when on diet alone. You just have to keep at it really... get to know what works and what doesn't and keep reassessing things.