Please allow me to play devil's advocate. Average Health Insurance premium - £10 per person per week, in 2006 the average amount contributed (out of National Insurance) per person per week was £14.50. I'm assuming that's now a tad more.The problem with the NHS, is that powerful politicians like Jeremy Hunt doesn't have to rely on it.
He can go private!
People are against sugar tax etc.. Companies like to sell double size portions.
I have a friend that circuit trains twice a week, but has all you can eat breakfasts or humongous subways and literally live on takeaways. How on earth can you educate these people?
He's been told he not good with food choices. Their kids don't eat a single vegetable and they just pick easy options and save arguments with kids who are also obese.
I know that this isn't norm but my goodness if this is what the govt face there really isn't much they can give with incentives!! Even the grandmother just buys them all cakes n sweets etc. Just for an easy life.
They just can't see anything wrong. So how can their lifestyles ever change? They will all probBly have good genes n live until 100!!!
I suspect they see me lean and eating really healthy to look after myself n say "healthy eating hasn't done her any good !"
It does start with lifestyles and living in the families. Childrenbase their adult life's on their childhoods.
Its beyond me. I do a fair bit of voluntary work with GP Practice and I can't honestly see what they can do with educating people so firmly set on an easy lifestyle.
It seems that Nhs Managers want GPs to go through their patient lists and refer those at high risk for interventions, such as Zumba dance and cookery classes.
The project is going to be piloted in seven areas this year and then launched nationally from next April.
But the GPC has warned practices are already ‘oversaturated’ and that improving access to healthier food and exercise should also be a priority.
Well we got a GP / Gym referral scheme up n running and its only me using it!!!
• 53 million aspirin and paracetamol tablets, available over the counter in supermarkets and pharmacies, were prescribed by doctors at a net ingredient cost of £112.3 million
This would equate to a single tablet costing £2.12 when you can buy a pack of 16 for less than £0.50 in the shop? I wonder if they mean 53 million prescriptions?
If not, can I have a job in the NHS please as I can send a van out to Tesco and save £85.86M in one go!
It's not about the money!Please allow me to play devil's advocate. Average Health Insurance premium - £10 per person per week, in 2006 the average amount contributed (out of National Insurance) per person per week was £14.50. I'm assuming that's now a tad more.
I see people paying additional amounts for private health care as an advantage, they paying in to the pot to fund the NHS and they're not joining the queue for a lot of the treatments that the NHS perform.
Wish I knew the answer.
Please allow me to play devil's advocate. Average Health Insurance premium - £10 per person per week, in 2006 the average amount contributed (out of National Insurance) per person per week was £14.50. I'm assuming that's now a tad more.
I see people paying additional amounts for private health care as an advantage, they paying in to the pot to fund the NHS and they're not joining the queue for a lot of the treatments that the NHS perform.
Wish I knew the answer.
I can only make comparisons on my experience.
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I had the same consultant that I could have had under the NHS, the only difference being that I went to a smaller private hospital and I had a cup of tea and a sandwich brought to me after surgery in my own room, rather than being shown where the cafeteria was and I had it done within a couple of months rather than ??????.
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You mention the elite and I don't consider myself being a member of the elite by any means. 10% of the UK pays for private health insurance, (my emboldening)
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Well, that rather shows the negative effect on the NHS of the privateers- the same consultant, just quicker!
And yes, I'm sorry, but you really are rich if you're in a 10% group by income/property. Pretty much by definition.
I don't begrudge you the money, no doubt you've earned it- but I do think Socialism would help this country massively, and I am terrified that we'll end up with a US-style health market. I'd be fair swift dead for one.
I have to agree about most of your post, except the queue jumping, because that is what it is!I can only make comparisons on my experience.
I nearly bled to death after a mishap when I had a colonoscopy and a polyp removed. The care I received from the NHS was second to none, private health insurance wouldn't have been able to compete.
My blood pressure went through the roof and I ended up in hospital and again the care I received was second to none (except they wanted me to eat soup bowls of mashed potato LOL). Again, private Health Care would not be able to compete.
I've just had a cataract removed under private health insurance. I had the same consultant that I could have had under the NHS, the only difference being that I went to a smaller private hospital and I had a cup of tea and a sandwich brought to me after surgery in my own room, rather than being shown where the cafeteria was and I had it done within a couple of months rather than ??????.
I think the NHS does provide excellent treatment, perhaps it's different in different parts of the country. It seems to suffer from a lack of people being paid a decent salary which we as tax payers should be happy to pay for.
You mention the elite and I don't consider myself being a member of the elite by any means. 10% of the UK pays for private health insurance, I don't know if that includes dental health insurance which everybody meekly accepted when Thatcher wouldn't pay them more. I could go on about being a boring old fart who doesn't smoke or drink but does pay a health insurance premium, something all smokers and drinkers could do but they don't and that's there prerogative. I don't have a problem with what other people do with their money.
You pays yer money and you takes yer choices.
It's not about the money!
It's about having an option to use the system or abuse it by being able to afford better care.
If a member of the elite had to use the same resources, they would assure that the care would be there for them. They don't so they won't!
Yes, there has to be a balance, but not having access to the best, is damning of our society. Only way to get the best treatment is to pay for it!
Something wrong somewhere!
I think the main reason for people using private schemes is really for queue jumping purposes. There are some things that it really does take a very long time to get seen for.I must confess that I believe the private system doesn't really offer that much more of a service. It exists because the "elite" and others who can afford it, pay for it. It's all about status for many who use it. That said, I know a number of people who could most definitely afford to go private and don't for two main reasons:
1. They think the NHS is perfectly good.
2. They have paid tax all of their lives for the NHS and don't want to pay twice.
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