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Healthiest diet for prediabetes?

Tesco

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Just wonder what are the healthiest diet for a guy with prediabetes with fasting glucose of 5,7 but can only handle 35gram carb before spinking over 8? Not only related to keeping the bloodsugar low but also getting all the good and necessary nutrients. (greens, legumes, berries, fish...)
 
I suggest ditching the premade meals, the factory processed meals TV dinners, sugary and starchy / stodgy food, duffnuts etc. Make your meals yourself if possible using what we would refer to as real food, i,e, food grown or reared or fished. Processed means messed about with, added to, filtered out, ground down, plumped up.

It seems you already use a bgl meter, so the real advice is to do what we call 'eat to meter' i.e. take readings just before you eat, then 2 hours after the meal so you can see how the meal spikes you or not. I personally test at 4 hours too, since that shows me the effect of any proteins I have eaten which act slower than the sugars and carbs.

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I eat bacon (or filler free sausages or and/or chicken livers or salmon or similar and eggs (every way possible) and avocado or spinach for breakfast every single day. This keeps me going most of the day. If I get peckish in the afternoon I’ll eat some nuts or berries or cheese or some full/double cream yogurt. Dinner is meat/chicken/fish and non starch veg. I eat plenty to keep me full. BG any time of the day is below 6 and often around 4.5. All without meds. If I eat bread, cereals, pasta, potato, fruit etc my BG shoots up to 10-15. Spice it up to make it tasty and lay off the carbs or take the meds. Your choice.
 
Oh and lots of non-vegetable fats to keep you satiated. I cook using lots of fats and oils
 
Oh and lots of non-vegetable fats to keep you satiated. I cook using lots of fats and oils

I agree, try to get your Omega 6 levels as low as you can.

Studies have shown that food cooked in Omega 6 oils cause much bigger spikes than mono and saturated fats.
 
I agree, try to get your Omega 6 levels as low as you can.

Studies have shown that food cooked in Omega 6 oils cause much bigger spikes than mono and saturated fats.

Do you have links to those studies, Cherry?
 
Do you have links to those studies, Cherry?
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sorry I meant to stick in the link to my blog where I discuss my thoughts on various published studies
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https://sci-hub.bz/http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/dia.2013.0178
covers omega 6 oils provoke higher insulin responses than Olive oil

and

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3076650/
This study shows a 30 fold increase in omega 6 in the last century

I discuss my views on both in my blog

"In a comparison of olive and canola oil, and the control a significant decrease in fasting insulin level, HOMA-IR, HOMA-bCF, andDI (P<0.001) was observed in the olive oil group and an Increase in HDL.

Canola reduced LDL and trigs compared to control but not fasting insulin

Pity they didn't include butter - as based on the Food Insulin Index butter is even less likely to trigger insulin response than Olive oil .

I will stick with limiting PUFA Om 6 oils "

and

"This paper indicates that the USA has changed the consumption of Omega 6 to Omega 3 from 1:1 at the turn of the century to as much as 30:1 today .

Per the study above in India re oils, its clear that Omega 6 oils have a much higher insulin response.

This will be a prime reason why shop pastries and cakes etc have caused such a leap in insulin. Omega 6 is to my mind at least as big an issue as carbohydrates .

Very high Omega 6 oils to be avoided are :
Safflower, sunflower, commodity vegetable oils, all purpose corn oils, soya bean oil

Check out CRON-O-Meter to search out the Omega 6 content of favorite foods
https://cronometer.com "
 
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I appreciate the reminder about Omega 6 FAs. I do eat a lot of soy (mainly tofu and some soy milk, not the oil) and sunflower (seeds and butter, not the oil). Is that okay, do you think?
I have another question - I hope it's not too far off topic.
I'm one week before facilitating a weekend workshop for which I'm feeling inadequately prepared. This morning I woke up (after almost 10 hrs of deep sleep) with my heart racing and FBS on arrising of 6.0 (almost the highest it's been in the 16 mo I've been testing, and the highest ever on this particular meter (AccuChek Connect), which reads a bit lower than the Verio IQ I used for the first 9 months). I had already washed my hands and wiped with rubbing alcohol (aka surgical spirit), but I rewashed my hands, just in case, and 10 minutes later the reading was 5.4 . I'm wondering if a state of anxiety/ agitation can produce a rise in FBS. Anybody have experience with this?
Thanks!
 
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