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Stacey Melvin

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi Everyone
New to the Forum. Been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes way back in 2015.

Ive just had an additional drug added to my tablet regime so hoping this will help but feeling very deflated at the moment as the GP is saying next stop is Insulin!
 
Welcome. You’re at the right place now. Tell us a bit more about yourself so we can see how you might improve your control and avoid the insulin

What are your levels? Fingerprick and hba1c?
what medications are you on?
what is your diet like - what sort of foods or a typical day
are you able and willing to be physically active
anything complicating the diabetes control
 
Hi HSSS - my levels before I was put on the new meds were between 12-16 after waking.

I have started to do finger pricking testing since Monday last week following a DESMOND online course.

Previously my GP/Diabetes nurse did not think it was necessary! I was unchecked for over 2 years like many others over Covid etc.

My hba1c was 85% as of September 2022. This had gone up from 67% when last monitored.

I am on Glucophage 500mg - two taken twice aday. Canagliflozin 300mg once per day, Atorvastatin 10mg once per and now the new medication Gliclazide 80mg - one taken twice aday.

I thought my diet was pretty good ie. Fish, salad, pasta, rice etc. but I think my portion sizes were too big and that I should have been eating brown bread, rice, pasta as I now realise that some foods are worse than others. I love crisps and savoury stuff like sausage rolls. Only have takeaway as treats.

I suffer from other disabilities so exercise can be difficult if I’m in pain but I like walking, dancing and have just started using skipping rope daily.

Recently had 3 bereavements within a year. Gave up my full time job to care for them so this may be a factor..comfort eating as a way of bearing with loneliness/grief.

Since I’ve been on Gliclazide my finger pricks are showing improvement. Today before lunch I was 5.8.

Thanks
 
Ok so as you’re aware those levels are too high ideally. (Ps it’s not %. U.K. mmol for the hba1 levels. % is the USA unit and will usually be single figures). It’s also quite a lot of medication.

The way most of us in here control our type 2 most successful is monitoring and limiting just the carbs we eat Rather than starve and eat ever smaller portion. So that’s not just sugar but anything else too that becomes glucose (sugar) in our blood once digested. This includes the pasta and rice you mention. Brown or white isn’t a huge difference in glucose effects, although better for fibre. Brown thing digest a little slower maybe but they still break down into glucose and still keep your glucose higher than it should be. Possibly a little less high but for longer instead most likely. Crisps (potatos) and savoury stuff (pastry) are all red alert items. . Real meats, fish, full fat dairy, non starchy veg, salad, nuts, seeds are all great to eat.

A good place to start understanding this is the page here in this link dietdoctor.com/diabetes. It sounds daunting and the opposite of what you’ve previously been told but it works. There are so many success stories in here and in other groups as well as scientific research supporting it.

The way to see which foods are good and bad for you is to test before you eat a meal and then again 2 hrs after. The basic goal is to be within 2mmol or less of the start point. If it’s a lot higher there were too many carbs. No bias, no agenda, just facts.

The only things you need to be aware of is the canaflozin is what’s known as an sglt2 type of medication and it’s not a good idea to go too low carb on these as it can cause issues (euglycemic DKA) in rare cases. But you sound really quite high carb right now so there’s room for some reduction before that becomes a worry. I’d personally make this the first medication to stop as a result so you don’t have to keep carbs that aren’t helping you. Then there’s the possibility of hypos with the gliclazide (which is why you’ve now been given a meter and strips or should have been). Cutting the carbs significantly can reduce blood glucose a lot and fast and that will mean your current prescription can become too strong fast too. Which is ultimately what you want in order to get it reduced and bloods under control. But monitoring is essential to make sure you keep them matched well. Don’t let a nurse/dr tell you to increase carbs to match the medication. It should be the other way around Ie Drugs to match your chosen diet - especially a diet that improves the outlook for blood glucose control, weight, blood pressure and many other things.

Stress is a noticeable factor and it sounds like you’ve had a lot of it. Be kind to yourself. The exercise where you can manage it can be beneficial for mood and socialising as well as fitness.

Keep coming back to these forums and asking questions and reading about the experiences of others. There’s loads more information below this post in my links in red if you want more reading material.
 
Thank you for all the advice & info. I’m monitoring what I eat now using my Fitbit app and it shows the individual food breakdown which is really helpful. My carb intake is roughly 180-200g but I’m aiming to get this lower.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. if you seriously change to low carb you will likely get to the stage where you will need minimal or no medication. Be careful as advised by @HSSS above. The big realisation for me was that the four starches, potatoes (in all forms) , bread, rice and pasta have to be cut out or severely curtailed (your meter will tell you). Pastry and pizza items likewise. Cauliflower rice is great alternative with curry and can be bought in frozen portion packs in Asda and Iceland. There are some LC breads around but they are pricey and I limit myself to one slice only for my morning toast. Chips can be replaced by other veg preferably above ground or halloumi fries. Or just have a big side salad. I haven’t found an alternative to pasta though I believe slices of aubergine can replace lasagne sheets. Its just another way of thinking: have lots of the good stuff and ditch the bad. What is the most interesting part of the sandwich...the filling, right? So have the filling x 2 and ditch the bread. Eggs are great 3 egg omelette with chopped ham & mushroom or 3 scrambled with a big knob of butter is also filling. Get lots of protein and good fat and you won’t be hungry. Hope this helps a bit …best wishes.
 
Hi Everyone
New to the Forum. Been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes way back in 2015.

Ive just had an additional drug added to my tablet regime so hoping this will help but feeling very deflated at the moment as the GP is saying next stop is Insulin!
Well you have landed on your feet! I only came across this forum a week ago, so i am a Newbie too, and i am genuinely amazed by how caring and helpful so many are here. I am sure that with the advice you will get here and a bit of determination, you will get the better of this.
 
Well you have landed on your feet! I only came across this forum a week ago, so i am a Newbie too, and i am genuinely amazed by how caring and helpful so many are here. I am sure that with the advice you will get here and a bit of determination, you will get the better of this.
 
Well you have landed on your feet! I only came across this forum a week ago, so i am a Newbie too, and i am genuinely amazed by how caring and helpful so many are here. I am sure that with the advice you will get here and a bit of determination, you will get the better of this.

Thank you Stephen. Hope this forum is helping you too.
 
Thank you for all the advice & info. I’m monitoring what I eat now using my Fitbit app and it shows the individual food breakdown which is really helpful. My carb intake is roughly 180-200g but I’m aiming to get this lower.
The nhs are very generous with their low carb guidance and even they say under 150g. (40 per meal and 10 per snack ish). So that’s the first goal to aim for. Better to avoid the snacks though and have more filling meals.

I’d say most of us on no drugs or just metformin (glucophage) are under 100g and there’s quite a lot under 50g, some even as low as 20g a day. Our aim to to be on no or minimal medication. How low you personally need to go depends on how insulin resistant you are and what your personal choices are about how much you are prepared to tolerate medication V diet changes.

The reason diabetes has been seen as progressive is because medications help mitigate some of the blood glucose rises. Which are a symptom as well as causing it’s own issues. But few of them do anything much about the underlying issue of our inability to use the insulin we make (insulin resistance) and that too causes it’s own health problems even whilst the blood glucose is being held back by medication. The nhs is only monitoring blood glucose and pretty much ignore insulin other than to add more of it by injections or drugs that make us produce more of it ourselves (gliclazide for example). The vast majority of type 2 actually already produce a larger amount of insulin than normal in an effort to force it to work. Having all that ineffective insulin circulating in our blood causes inflammaction, damage and makes us even more resistant so we go round in ever decreasing circles. Addressing the core issue of insulin resistance (which low carb does) actually limits the problems in the first place rather than sticking plasters over it.
 
Thank you Stephen. Hope this forum is helping you too.
It has been sooooo helpful!!!! I hit the site running! I was shocked to hear i was approaching prediabetes, so immediately cut out all sugar, pasta, rice, mashed potatoes, as soon as I started the medication a week ago. I went really low carb (almost 0) and i have lost 7kg already!!!! This is the diet i should have done years ago. I figure once i get back to reasonable weight, around 12.5 stone, i will ease back on some of the carbs and treat myself to a little, but i am loving losing the weight. I feel so much better already. I know i will fall off the wagon until then, but it will be small falls for a day , and nothing major. This is a whole of life change, and it makes sense at my age and weight.
 
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