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Flak · Apr 14, 2019

Hi there, I have come to this site because I have been diagnosed as pre-diabetic Hba1C reading of 44 mmo/l on the 6th March 2019. I had a previous test in September of last year which was normal. For the last four weeks I have been doing the Dr Michael Mosely fast 800 Blood sugar diet. In that time I have lost 1St 5lbs, my blood pressure this morning was 109/70 and my Blood glucose readings are averaging out at 5.4 mmo/l after 84 tests over the last month.

I'm hoping by joining these forums I can gain more knowledge of this condition and can usefully contribute to the debate.

HSSS · Apr 14, 2019

Welcome. It sounds like you’re doing rather well. I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her new members welcome.

Guzzler · Apr 14, 2019

Hello and welcome to the forum. What a great start, well done. Any questions, just fire away.

Flak · Apr 14, 2019

One question which does occur to me is I am told it is possible to reverse this diagnosis and regain a normal BG level, Does that mean that the condition has gone or is just in remission? Will I have to continue to eat a low carb diet and monitor my BG levels for the rest of my life?

Prem51 · Apr 14, 2019

Welcome to the forum @Flak. Well done on taking action now to avoid becoming a fully paid up member of the diabetic club!
You will get a lot of good advice and support on here. Have a read round the threads and ask anything you want to.

Bluetit1802 · Apr 14, 2019

Welcome to the forum @Flak You really have taken the bull by the horns and started to take control. You are doing really well.

Listlad · Apr 14, 2019

Flak said:
Hi there, I have come to this site because I have been diagnosed as pre-diabetic Hba1C reading of 44 mmo/l on the 6th March 2019. I had a previous test in September of last year which was normal. For the last four weeks I have been doing the Dr Michael Mosely fast 800 Blood sugar diet. In that time I have lost 1St 5lbs, my blood pressure this morning was 109/70 and my Blood glucose readings are averaging out at 5.4 mmo/l after 84 tests over the last month.

I'm hoping by joining these forums I can gain more knowledge of this condition and can usefully contribute to the debate.

Hello Flak,
I just nosed in to the diabetic bracket back in 2014 and quickly got my HbA1c down to 40/41 by cutting out sugary products. It all levelled off a bit for several years until recently where a lower carb higher fat diet seems to have sorted that out quite quickly. If only I had known earlier it would have happened sooner.

Pasha · Apr 14, 2019

Hi @Flak and welcome to the forums,may you derive great benefit from them and the experience of many helpful members.

Flak · Apr 14, 2019

Thank you all for the welcome and your helpful responses.

Jaylee · Apr 14, 2019

Hi @Flak ,

Warm welcome to the forum.

Yer making good progress already.
Feel free to ask any question.

Flak · Apr 14, 2019

What do you all do when you go on holiday? I have a 23 night cruise to Australia booked in Feb next year and I am wondering how I am going to get on monitoring my carb intake when all my meals will be prepared for me?

Bluetit1802 · Apr 14, 2019

Flak said:
What do you all do when you go on holiday? I have a 23 night cruise to Australia booked in Feb next year and I am wondering how I am going to get on monitoring my carb intake when all my meals will be prepared for me?

That sounds absolutely wonderful! It is a long time off - by then you will know automatically what you can and can't eat, and be able to judge portion sizes on the plate. The menu choices on cruise ships are vast. Lucky person!!

mazza 2 · Apr 14, 2019

Flak said:
One question which does occur to me is I am told it is possible to reverse this diagnosis and regain a normal BG level, Does that mean that the condition has gone or is just in remission? Will I have to continue to eat a low carb diet and monitor my BG levels for the rest of my life?

Hi Flak, well done so far. I'm not an expert as I was only diagnosed just over a year ago and it's a steep learning curb. But by reading many posts on this forum, I would assume that pre-diabetes is showing you are beginning to have some insulin resistance and if you were to carry on would become fully diabetic, but how long that would take, who knows! You are able to reverse pre-diabetes but as for the long haul I don't know if by resuming your original diet you would then become pre-diabetic and then diabetic. I know that you can reverse type 2 diabetes if you remain low carb and I think that hopefully you will improve insulin resistance which might result in you being able to increase carbs, although I prefer to think of the diet as a life change as opposed to a diet which says to me that once you have it under control, you can then eat what you want and never have to worry. If only!! Will you be getting another HBA1C test to confirm normal levels? Hopefully someone will be able to advise you about diet once you have been pre-diabetic. They are a great bunch on here.

Flak · Apr 14, 2019

Bluetit1802 said:
That sounds absolutely wonderful! It is a long time off - by then you will know automatically what you can and can't eat, and be able to judge portion sizes on the plate. The menu choices on cruise ships are vast. Lucky person!!

Yes, I didn't think of that! I will also be much more used to this type of lifestyle by then as well!

Flak · Apr 14, 2019

mazza 2 said:
Hi Flak, well done so far. I'm not an expert as I was only diagnosed just over a year ago and it's a steep learning curb. But by reading many posts on this forum, I would assume that pre-diabetes is showing you are beginning to have some insulin resistance and if you were to carry on would become fully diabetic, but how long that would take, who knows! You are able to reverse pre-diabetes but as for the long haul I don't know if by resuming your original diet you would then become pre-diabetic and then diabetic. I know that you can reverse type 2 diabetes if you remain low carb and I think that hopefully you will improve insulin resistance which might result in you being able to increase carbs, although I prefer to think of the diet as a life change as opposed to a diet which says to me that once you have it under control, you can then eat what you want and never have to worry. If only!! Will you be getting another HBA1C test to confirm normal levels? Hopefully someone will be able to advise you about diet once you have been pre-diabetic. They are a great bunch on here.

Thanks for your very informative reply, I am at the Dr's tomorrow to discuss all of this and I will be requesting another Hba1C test, however as I understand it this test shows the history of your blood glucose level over a three month period? In which case I will have to wait until at least June before I have another test.

jjraak · Apr 14, 2019

Flak said:
What do you all do when you go on holiday? I have a 23 night cruise to Australia booked in Feb next year and I am wondering how I am going to get on monitoring my carb intake when all my meals will be prepared for me?

Hi and welcome to team D.

I believe it is a case of not going back to how you used to eat on a daily basis.
so remission rather then cure, though others do make a persuasive argument for cure..
i think its all very much semantics... and how we personally see the 'evidence'

as for the cruise, it is along way off, and by then you should, as mentioned have a much better idea of the foods YOU can handle well and those you should perhaps avoid.

having said that..i recently spent time in india and with the curries rice and breads, was a little concerned about how i would fare.

I have been LCHF since nov, after dipping a toe in and finding it helpful i then proceeded to follow others in this WOE.
(probably run at 40/60 grams a day of carbs..just to frame the next part )

On arrival in india i tested regularly the first week with the intention of relaxing my diet as ..well i was on HOLIDAY.

However , i found that the spikes i was expecting never really came.
I ate minimal rice, but did eat many bread types/flours, nan, roti, plain breads handmade on premises, samosas, etc
i also drank beers/vodka daily..(been tea total pretty much since DX)

The best i could make out is .
* foods here are much more processed then there
* the months i spent low carbing have depleted my 'sugar bowl' allowing me the luxury of refilling without too much issue
* The flours/ingredients there aren't so adulterated by the pesticides and chemicals we use over here in the west.

i imagine it is probably a combo of them all.

i did feel quite blessed and lucky that i could step out of this LOW CARB skin for a few weeks.

I enjoy eating this way at home, but in a foreign country where things don't fall so easily to hand about carb content etc, did worry me, so like i say blessed it all seemed to work out well for me.

Ship side, sure much will be processed to 'keep' better but maybe not too much.
fresh foods, much like you eat at home will be available, but i'd say do as i did, try a little of what you fancy ..
test as you do here.

it might be a no..or it might be the same as me..good to go ..(for a short while at least)

Good luck until then.

regards.

Flak · Apr 14, 2019

jjraak said:
Hi and welcome to team D.

but i'd say do as i did, try a little of what you fancy ..
test as you do here.

it might be a no..or it might be the same as me..good to go ..(for a short while at least)

Good luck until then.

regards.

Thanks, and that is very encouraging information! I will follow to the letter this WOE for as long as it takes, i'm a bit OCD anyway and once I embark on a course of action I see it through come what may. But this holiday has been a long while in the planning and it is encouraging to think that I may for a short period be able to relax the regime just a little bit!

Traceymac23 · Apr 14, 2019

Flak said:
One question which does occur to me is I am told it is possible to reverse this diagnosis and regain a normal BG level, Does that mean that the condition has gone or is just in remission? Will I have to continue to eat a low carb diet and monitor my BG levels for the rest of my life?

You can put this horrible condition into remission but you will always have to keep an eye on it returning......although you can ease up just a little once you have it under manners!!

Traceymac23 · Apr 14, 2019

Flak said:
Thanks, and that is very encouraging information! I will follow to the letter this WOE for as long as it takes, i'm a bit OCD anyway and once I embark on a course of action I see it through come what may. But this holiday has been a long while in the planning and it is encouraging to think that I may for a short period be able to relax the regime just a little bit!

a little bit of what you fancy does you good now and then.....no-one here will send the sugar nazi's around if you relax a bit

Traceymac23 · Apr 14, 2019

jjraak said:
Hi and welcome to team D.

I believe it is a case of not going back to how you used to eat on a daily basis.
so remission rather then cure, though others do make a persuasive argument for cure..
i think its all very much semantics... and how we personally see the 'evidence'

as for the cruise, it is along way off, and by then you should, as mentioned have a much better idea of the foods YOU can handle well and those you should perhaps avoid.

having said that..i recently spent time in india and with the curries rice and breads, was a little concerned about how i would fare.

I have been LCHF since nov, after dipping a toe in and finding it helpful i then proceeded to follow others in this WOE.
(probably run at 40/60 grams a day of carbs..just to frame the next part )

On arrival in india i tested regularly the first week with the intention of relaxing my diet as ..well i was on HOLIDAY.

However , i found that the spikes i was expecting never really came.
I ate minimal rice, but did eat many bread types/flours, nan, roti, plain breads handmade on premises, samosas, etc
i also drank beers/vodka daily..(been tea total pretty much since DX)

The best i could make out is .
* foods here are much more processed then there
* the months i spent low carbing have depleted my 'sugar bowl' allowing me the luxury of refilling without too much issue
* The flours/ingredients there aren't so adulterated by the pesticides and chemicals we use over here in the west.

i imagine it is probably a combo of them all.

i did feel quite blessed and lucky that i could step out of this LOW CARB skin for a few weeks.

I enjoy eating this way at home, but in a foreign country where things don't fall so easily to hand about carb content etc, did worry me, so like i say blessed it all seemed to work out well for me.

Ship side, sure much will be processed to 'keep' better but maybe not too much.
fresh foods, much like you eat at home will be available, but i'd say do as i did, try a little of what you fancy ..
test as you do here.

it might be a no..or it might be the same as me..good to go ..(for a short while at least)

Good luck until then.

regards.

holiday=stress free=counteracts small amount of bread/rice perhaps

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