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Help, Husband is tired

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Jijichayan

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
desidiabulum said:
This is not about whether the NHS should, or can afford to, provide test strips on a permanent or temporary basis to non-T1 diabetics. Having read #EveryCloud ’s post, and so many more like it over the years on this forum, I wonder whether we could gather together examples of Healthcare Professionals who have told people that it is either unnecessary or just plain wrong to test their blood sugars. It is a scandal that needs highlighting.
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Dear All
I am new to this forum and i am writing for my husband .He is diabettic type 2 and on glucophage tablet HbA1c is 7.2 last week from yesturday he start complaining he feels both his hands tired and week in the morning .afternoon he feels better still he is tired please advice .
thank you .
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. May I ask how long your husband has been taking glucophage and is it the only Diabetes medicine that he is on? Has your husband changed his diet at all? Does he test his blood glucose using a meter at home? The answers (if you choose to say) will help members to give advice.

Being given the diagnosis of Diabetes is sometimes a shock but you will get plenty of advice and support here.
 
Guzzler said:
Hello and welcome to the forum. May I ask how long your husband has been taking glucophage and is it the only Diabetes medicine that he is on? Has your husband changed his diet at all? Does he test his blood glucose using a meter at home? The answers (if you choose to say) will help members to give advice.

Being given the diagnosis of Diabetes is sometimes a shock but you will get plenty of advice and support here.
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He is only on glucophage .From one year he is on glucophage .RBS is 7.8mmol. He is on diet .
 
Sorry for all the questions, RBS? What is a typical days food like for him, is it lower in carbohydrates? And can you say what his last HbA1c result was, please.

Eta. Tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack.
 
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Guzzler said:
Sorry for all the questions, RBS? What is a typical days food like for him, is it lower in carbohydrates? And can you say what his last HbA1c result was, please.
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Looked it up and it seems to be Random Blood Sugar. "Random testing is useful because glucose levels in healthy people do not vary widely throughout the day." So it seems to be a random test, not fasting. If the correct term is being used.

To my simple mind a random test of 7.8 (especially after diagnosis) is neither use nor ornament because it could be one hour after eating.

More information required.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Looked it up and it seems to be Random Blood Sugar. "Random testing is useful because glucose levels in healthy people do not vary widely throughout the day." So it seems to be a random test, not fasting. If the correct term is being used.

To my simple mind a random test of 7.8 (especially after diagnosis) is neither use nor ornament because it could be one hour after eating.

More information required.
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Thank you and I agree, a random test seems a little pointless.
 
Jijichayan said:
HbA1C 7.2MMOL,fasting is 7.1mmol,he is avoiding refined sugar but eating Carb moderately .
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Thanks, very helpful.

Avoiding refined sugar is a myth, I'm afraid. All carbohydrates turn to sugar, the refined sugar is just a slightly faster hit.

"Moderate" is also a much misused term.:)

Do you have a rough figure for the number of grams of carbohydrate your husband eats each day?

To make a significant difference it should be under 100 grams per day.

The other thing to note. Many people start by cutting their carbohydrate to 100 grams a day or less then wonder why they feel weak and tired. There are often two reasons:

  1. They have not added in protein and fat to replace the carbohydrates so they aren't getting enough to eat.
  2. They are switching over to proteins and fats, but their bodies are still adjusting. This is known as "carb flu" and should only last a week or so with luck.
There is another state, where the carbohydrates are cut back, but not enough for the body to switch from burning carbohydrate to burning fat. This leaves the person in a half way state of not getting enough carbohydrates but not going low enough for the body to switch to fat burning mode. This is effectively permanent carb flu and can be very confusing as well as very unpleasant.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Thanks, very helpful.

Avoiding refined sugar is a myth, I'm afraid. All carbohydrates turn to sugar, the refined sugar is just a slightly faster hit.

"Moderate" is also a much misused term.:)

Do you have a rough figure for the number of grams of carbohydrate your husband eats each day?

To make a significant difference it should be under 100 grams per day.

The other thing to note. Many people start by cutting their carbohydrate to 100 grams a day or less then wonder why they feel weak and tired. There are often two reasons:

  1. They have not added in protein and fat to replace the carbohydrates so they aren't getting enough to eat.
  2. They are switching over to proteins and fats, but their bodies are still adjusting. This is known as "carb flu" and should only last a week or so with luck.
There is another state, where the carbohydrates are cut back, but not enough for the body to switch from burning carbohydrate to burning fat. This leaves the person in a half way state of not getting enough carbohydrates but not going low enough for the body to switch to fat burning mode. This is effectively permanent carb flu and can be very confusing as well as very unpleasant.
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Please send me a diet plan for type 2 diabettic .He is 63.5kg weight and 163cm height .Thank you appreiciated .
 
Jijichayan said:
Please send me a diet plan for type 2 diabettic .He is 63.5kg weight and 163cm height .Thank you appreiciated .
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Just checked his BMI and that seems at the higher end of normal. So not overweight but probably could come down a little.

The diet section of this web site has a lot of helpful information.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/low-carb-diet-forum.18/

It would help if you listed what your husband normally eats each day, and we could then suggest any changes which might help. It is very difficult to suggest a diet when we don't know what you normally eat, and also any personal or religious restrictions you have on diet.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Just checked his BMI and that seems at the higher end of normal. So not overweight but probably could come down a little.

The diet section of this web site has a lot of helpful information.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/low-carb-diet-forum.18/

It would help if you listed what your husband normally eats each day, and we could then suggest any changes which might help. It is very difficult to suggest a diet when we don't know what you normally eat, and also any personal or religious restrictions you have on diet.
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Medium portion
Morning 7:30am Rice pancake 3, 1 Egg, 1 banana, tea
Mid-morning Fruits and 2 nuggets OR Yogurt
Lunch Rice, vegetable and fish
Evening Snacks
Dinner chicken and bread, vegetables
I dont know exactly in gram .
 
@Jijichayan O.K. - it can help to lower the carbohydrates as these turn into glucose which pushes the Blood Glucose (BG) level up.

It is difficult to advise what to use for replacements, but the things that are high carbohydrate:
Rice pancake
Banana
Any tropical fruits (berries are usually O.K.)
Rice
Bread

Are the nuggets chicken in bread crumbs? If so, just chicken would be better. Not sure what else they might be.
Is the yogurt full fat? Better than low fat because there is usually less sugar.

If you drop the rice and bread, and perhaps increase the number of eggs for breakfast and the amount of chicken for tea then that might help.

There doesn't seem to be much fat in the diet, and it helps to replace the carbohydrates with fats to provide energy.

Good sources of fat include coconut (especially the oil), avocado, oily fish.
 
If you use ghee in your cooking then carry on but lowering the amount of carbohydrates will see better results in terms of blood glucose levels. With regard to the discomfort that your hubby has in his hands, I think a visit to the GP is advisable with this as it may be Diabetes related but equally it may not be due to Diabetes. Good luck.
 
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