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So sorry to hear about your injury Judith. I hope you are not in oo much pain. I suppose its hardly surprising that the staff will re-iterate NHS advice. In fact I suppose it is a plus that they are even aware of what you are'are not eating. In some hospitals they don't even notice when their patients are not eating at all!

If you are not on any medication and wish to follow your normal diet I can't see what it has to do with them. Your normal diet has not caused them any problems- just he opposite. I suppose the Dr means well but I know if I am forced o eat more carbs han usual ,apart from the effect on my bg levels I feel very sick!

I should just stick with the food that is brought in for you - you will hardly be unusual i just rejecting hospital food.

Good luck , hope you are better very soon, you have enough of a fight on your hands with your injury wihout having to fight the staff too.

So sorry to hear about your situation. How sad it is if even hospital staff don't know you're not going to get a dangerous hypo on diet only or metformin. Surely they know that non diabetics spend nearly all their time in the 4s? And they don't get hypos. Just refuse their stupid sandwiches.

Best wishes for a very speedy recovery.

If your very sound reasoning doesn't wash with the nurses, you can, I think, just dig your heels in and refuse to co-operate. Not ideal, but it might come to that. When I read your story - you posted it a while ago - I was amazed at what you'd been through and the incredible inner strength you have. It would be a disaster if they were to force you off the diet that you KNOW works for you and your diabetes.

Keep strong.

How on earth have you managed to do such an injury? It must be very painful and as for being in hospital, I'd dislike it too and I work in one!
I'm surprised they are remotely interested in your diabetes, especially as you're not on insulin. Next time a helpful nurse asks to check your BS just say no thanks.

A speedy recovery to you.

Get well soon!!

If they want you to eat carbs, tell them that they give you the runs.....they won't want you laid still and have to clean that up!! :lol:

Stick to your guns....if you are not exercising you don't need any extra food anyways :x

Best wishes for a speedy recovery
Angie

W.J., what a pain in the ...
Hope you start to feel better soon.
Had similar probs re food when I was in Hospital. all Sunday food was sandwiches so wife started to bring in "red cross parcels" of chicken salads <G> .
Rest of ward wanted same :lol: :lol: :lol: .
Hospitals don't know "diddly squat" about diabetic food requirements. It was I can' t eat that, and I can' t eat that, and it took over 24 hrs of "hunger strike" to get them to realise that I WOULDN'T eat the **** they wanted me to eat!

Hi WJ,

So sorry about this - I hope you are not in too much discomfort.

I would say first of all; as long as you are conscious and coherent your choice on how to deal with your diabetes takes precedence over anything anyone in hospital may think; you are in hospital not jail; you decide how to manage things.

If you do want to have a discussion about this with them, which of course you don't have to, then here is a good letter to the American Journal for Clinical Nutrition about 'essential nutrients' that you could show them. You'll note that carbohydrate is not on this list; it is shocking that health care professionals don't seem to know this, whereas teenagers doing GCSE Biology do...

The well written letter also notes that whilst there is "no evidence from which to conclude that extreme restriction of dietary carbohydrate is harmless, I was surprised to find that there is similarly little evidence to conclude that extreme restriction of carbohydrate is harmful."

As has been discussed many times; you cannot logically prove a negative, but only a positive; therefore failure to provide any evidence for the harm of low carbing can be taken to mean it does no harm, and we may act on that basis until actual evidence is shown to contradict that.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/75/5/951.2.full

Here's to a swift recovery.

Best

Dillinger

WJ. I can't add anything further to the great suggestions already given, let's hope that they DO read the forum as they have promised. I hope that you soon start to feel better, Thinking of you (((((((HUGS)))))))

Ann

I'm glad to hear that they are allowing you to look after the diabetes YOUR way! One less worry for you :clap: :clap: It sounds like you will be home in time for Christmas and you have a great family and friends to look after you.

I once went on a horse, I was about 11(long time ago!) I remember that it seemed to be an awfully long way down. They're beautiful animals, do you ride often? Fingers and toes crossed for you to make a quick recovery((((((HUGS))))))

Ann

Just playing catch-up on all the threads I missed when my BB went down and wanted to wish you a speedy recovery WJ.

I am so glad you have been able to come to an agreement of exactly who is in charge of your Diabetes and with any luck the ripples you have started about low carbing will spread out and re-educate at least some of the medical professionals you will be in contact with over the coming weeks.

Hello WJ ...

Good news that your nurses are checking out the forum ... it's nice to know they're taking a real interest in your care and listening to you ... and also it's essential that they know we're not just a bunch of diabetic foodie cranks ... we've got real results from our low carbing. So helloooooo to all your nurses and doctors who are looking after WJ and thank you for tuning in.

WJ I wish you a speedy but thorough recovery and everyone else who's in the ward with you.

Sorry to hear of your predicament WJ, haste ya a speedy recovery....Agree with everyone here...Its good that they are taking notice of you and actually listening to you...Only you know what your body needs and how it reacts....Lets hope you are much better soon

Sharon xxx

You fell off a horse?! How is the horse - I hope he wasn't injured! Seriously, I really hope you feel better soon and free of pain. It's probably not going to be easy having forced bed rest but you've got lots of family support (do they bring you grapes so they can eat them) plus us lot of course. Maybe your stay in hospital will have a positive result in that the NHS will finally realise that if you're doing it right then their advise is wrong. Well we can only hope. I won't make any jokes about bed baths

hi WJ

Glad things have improved on the db front,

Wishing you the speediest of speedy fast quick recoveries

Mary x

Get well soon and good for you for standing your ground.

ali xx

I've come late to this thread, WJ, but I'm full of sympathy and hope you're going on well. If you have to fracture your pelvis, falling off a horse is the best way to do it :wink:

The problem NHS staff have, I think, is that they're taught about Type 1 but not much about Type 2. Readings in the 4s might well be considered too low for a Type 1. You could remind them that NICE guidelines for non-diabetics are (fasting/before meals) -
3.5 - 5.5

:shock: All those non-diabetics driving about with hypos? :crazy: I think not! :roll:

I'm glad you've got some nice nurses - in my limited experience most nurses are super. They even accepted I was low-carb when I went in for day surgery last Christmas.

I hope your family aren't baking your own recipes for you - the staff will never believe you're low-carb :lol:

Keep cheerful!

Viv 8)

Wishing you a speedy recovery WJ, so glad someone is listening to you. With my very best wishes RRB

Hi - how are you getting on? Hope you aren't climbing the walls (metaphorically speaking) yet. Anyway thought I'd let you know I'm thinking of you