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Hi, I am new to this site so hope this is right...... I have been a diabetic for around 18months (diagnosed) only because I changed gp. when i was with my old gp I had fasting glucose levels of 7.6 which I was told was border-line so they sent me for a GTT which also came back boarder line but was told nothing in my lifestyle needed to change. So I moved doctors they ran the normal new patient blood tests which came back 10.0 on the first one and 10.2 on the second. So I was put straight on metformin after 8weeks they re did my bloods and they said they had dropped to 9.9 which is going in the right direction so I ended up on 3 metformin a day, 12 weeks later another blood test revealed it still wasn't low enough, so added glicazide fast release which they found to be causing hypos of 2.3 so they swapped the fast release to slow release and now the levels are worse than ever! My levels are now anywhere between 8.8 and 23.1 the doctors are now saying they think I might need to go on injection and I'm so scared I am also starting to loose weight without trying, I have been a&e twice so far they haven't been able to sort anything..... Any advice would be great


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Hi,

Im guessing as your on glicazide that you have a BG monitor? The best thing is the test before a meal then 2 hours after. If 2 hours after you are more than 2 mmol above the pre meal level then look at what your eating. Daisy will prob be along soon with advice for new members. You will prob see with your test results that meals which are high in carbs will give you high readings.

I have been where you are. I was increasing my meds whilst following the NHS advice, with my BG going up. Then I found this forum and cut my carbs and now Im almost medication free.

There is the possibility that you may not be type 2, but your doctor would need to do more tests for that, if they feel its appropriate. Have a look around the low carb section and make up your own mind.
 
I have been on a low carb diet for about 3 years, and now since the levels are higher than before I'm loosing 1-2lbs + per week..... The one a&e consultant I saw said going by my age and the levels of BG he said he doesn't feel it is type2 he thinks it's type1 as I'm am only 32 years, I have a slight overweight, and epilepsy to throw into the mix. I have been told to test levels before meals so I get a more accurate level



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Hi Smash and welcome to the forum

Here is the information which Lenny mentioned which we give to new members. This should help you to get your levels down gradually. Carry on asking questions as someone will answer with their experiences.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Type 1 and Type 2 are VERY different forms of diabetes. I'm definitely not the best person to describe the differences, but if you look on at diabetes uk website you'll find the explanations all there for you. Then if you have any questions there is always some one willing to help out.
 
Hi. In practice there is a range of diabetes types depending on whether it is due to insulin resistance or a deficient pancreas or even both. My nephew suddenly become diabetic at age 22 and went onto insulin so he fits the category of type 1.5 (LADA) as he was never overweight. Around 20% of those classed as 'T2s' are in fact not overweight or insulin resistant and some of these will be T1.5 or have a defective pancreas due to rare anti-bodies, viruses etc. I am one of those for whatever reason. Many GPs have an over simplistic view of diabetes i.e. you are either T1 or T2 which is not the case. So, were you overweight before you started losing weight? If not I suspect you may well be a T1.5 especially as you are young. There are two tests that can help diagnosis i.e. c-peptide to measure your insulin level and GAD to test for anti-bodies. The latter test may be inconclusive as there are some rare anti-bodies that the test doesn't cover. I had a private c-peptide and GAD done. The former proved I had very low insulin i.e. knackered pancreas and latter was negative so I will never know the cause. I've recently moved to insulin which is much easier than expected. If you are T1.5 then you will need to go over to insulin in the near future but with a 4mm long and very fine needle don't worry. BTW as Gliclazide did cause hypos it indicates you still have some pancreatic function so maybe insulin can be delayed for quite a while
 
I am what they are saying is slightly over weight...... There is diabetics all through my dads side of the family, my last few blood tests have come back saying my white blood cells are fighting some sort of infection and for years I have had protein in my water..... The doctor said that I gotta test 4 times a day and when I have the bloods done I have to take my results to see what they can find out from them. They don't think that the other type of tablets are going to work. I know one thing I am sick of sleeping and getting every little bug going....... Roll on the 22nd the day I have another blood test


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