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I can't get my blood glucose levels to come down and I don't no what to do? Tonight iv been feeling shaky and sick and dizzy like I'm gonna pass out but my reading was at 12.2 I just don't no what to do
 
I'm fairly new at this, - I know the others will have loads of advice for you.

You don't say that your type 1, so I'm going to assume T2?

Firstly, try to calm down. You sound like your panicking. Stress will make your sugar levels go higher. Going for a walk will help it come down, - not a fast "gotta bring my levels down" type walk. A gentle stretching legs type walk. But if you feel really bad, you may not want to do that. Also, it's quite late now, so you may not be comfortable doing that. The next thing - really the first thing you should be doing, in my humble opinion, is drinking water. - sit yourself down and try to relax. Drink water. Get up, go for a wee then sit down and drink more water. Have a think about what you've eaten. Was there anything there that could have sparked this? Something to avoid in the future? - I found a great one today, - strawberries. They're going in the number two slot on my things to avoid list, behind baked beans!

Really hope you feel better soon!! X


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Thanks very much, I'm told by doctors I'm type 2 but I'm on a drugs trial for diabetics atm where I'm taking injections but I'm not allowed to no if it's insulin or a placebo, I'm also on metformin have beeb for about 10years but I have really bad side effects on them, I generally only drink water mainly in a big stress and worry person I will admit and don't exercise as much as I should, iv changed a lot of my eating and cut down on carbs a lot but still sugars are really high

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I think that everyone's tolerance for sugar/carb is different. Do you write down what you eat? The best way ( I think) to work out what spikes you is to take your diet right back to basics. Meat, fish, leafy green veg. Then, when that's settled, start introducing things one at a time and see what each one does. - you probably already know all this.

More importantly, if your on a drug trail, you should be talking to your liaison about this stuff. Seems a bit mad that they stick you on something then leave you to fend for yourself?? Like throwing a child in the deep end to see if they'll learn to swim!?


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It was the same when docs told me I was diabetic they have never given me any tips advice or help with any of it didn't even want me testing my blood sugars at all its only cause the hospital got involved I test my levels x

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Still feel dizzy and sick haven't tested my sugars since this morning when they were at 9.8 will test in a moment but I have phone contact tomorrow with the trial team so will explain to them how iv been feeling see if they can shed some light x thank you for helping so much I just feel so lost and rubbish atm

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kirsstylw
If your body gets used to high sugars, you'll feel rotten if the level drops. I suggest you take a good look at how you are eating. particularly at the carbs [sugar, baked goods, rice, potatoes, cereals etc.And watch the carbs labels on ready foods] then gradually reduce your portions of these foods over a time. Do it stepwise, so your system gets used to it. you should find your numbers going down nicely. When you reach normal levels at around 5, you can adapt tp normal blood glucose and be fit and well.
In T2, diet plays a most important role in bg control.
If you want to know if your injections are insulin or placebo, you can find out if you check bg before you take it and then after about 3 hours. Insulin should reduce your numbers. Placebo likely won't. Metformin doesn't reduce bg by much. even at maximum dose of about 3 grams per day.
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I will try that tomorrow evening when I'm due my next injection, since the dose was upped my sugar levels are coming down a lot which makes me think it's insulin, I have changed my diet loads and cut out a lot of carbs as I used to eat loads and if reduced my protion sizes with everything else too so maybe it is my body getting used to less carbs and sugars just a horrible when I drive a lot and when I'm around my little girl so scared I'll pass out or something as Thats how it feels

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if I woke up with a blood sugar of over 10 then I would have say 2weetabix or 2 shredded wheat with one cup of tea (no Sugar) for breakfast.

If you have an iPhone or iPad then I would recommend you try that 'myfitnesspal' application. My daily allowance is based on a well man check I had recently.
My Daily allowance. 2 Shredded wheat 2 weetabix

Calories. 2542. 214g. 218g
Carbohydrates 349 36g 37g
Fat. 85g 3g 3g
Protein. 95g 9g. 9g
Sodium. 2500mg. 10mg. 135g
Sugar. 50g 5g 7g

Of course I do not know how active you are, I am retired and originally choose a sedatory lifestyle, ( and i lost weight which was not the object of the exercise in my case) and then activities, if I put in Say 3 hours of gardening my daily allowance will increase.
Recently I use the figures recommended after an essential male health check and with that I am maintaining my weight AND have very good control.

Do I use my fitness pal all the time answer is no not every day but most days, if i have a takaway or go to a restaurant then i cannot accurately record the food so i do not bother that day. but i used it for a couple of months and learned what I can eat when first using it, and have cut out certain things like Dolce Gusto Cappachino, and too many potatoes too late at night...


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- there's an example of everyone having different reactions to carbs/sugar. - if I had weetabix or anything like it, I'd be through the roof! I tend to have something like scrambled egg for breakfast, or, if I'm on the move, I'll grab a piece of cheese and a handful of cherry tomatoes and another of sliced peppers. But I really like stuff like that.

Neither way is right or wrong, just different. - horses for courses.

Did you talk to your support staff??


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Iv asked doctors and trial staff for help and ideas and get nowhere with anyone I'm at my wits end short of not w
Earring anything so my bg stays ok I don't no what else to do feel so fed up all I wanna do is sleep I have no energy for anything starting to feel like such a useless mother too

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I don't take any vitamins woukdnt no where to begin or if the trial team would be happy with it ill ask them when I go to my next check up in two weeks,
I don't always have breakfast but If I do its usually toast or shreddies with lacto free milk lunch depends sometime sandwhich sometimes nothing. T could be anything I feel like at thw time I don't really plan my meals

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Ok.

There are plenty of conflicting opinions on here, - as I said, horses for courses.

If I were you, I'd lose the cereal and the bread. In the evening, I'd avoid pasta, and go for things with a lower GI value. - new potatoes, or basmati rice, or better yet, fill up on vegetables. - there are lists of foods with their GI value, on line. I have a book which uses a traffic light system. Low GI things have less impact on your blood sugar and should help you stay stable. Once you've stabilised, you can start working out, if you need to eat other things, what works for you.


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Sounds like a good plan what's this book called so I can purchase it yes will avoid carbs at night in future, what sorta things do suggest for breakfast? Thank you so much for all your help :grin:

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"The GI Diet" by Rick Gallop.

It isn't hard core Low Carb-ing, but it should help you without being scary or extreme.

Porridge, - not the oats so simple version. (Although this is too high carb for me, it should be better than the wheat based cereal you're eating)

Omelette. - works well for me. Add veg, and make it the night before if you're in a rush, it's great sliced up cold.

Cottage cheese/greek yogurt with nuts seeds and berries (raspberries and blueberries are the lowest sugar fruits) - the Alpro natural is really low carb if you need a non milk version. The flavoured ones have sugar and therefore a higher carb count and more sugar in your blood stream.

Fish, - mackerel, salmon, whatever, with scrambled egg. ( my brother eats a massive smoked mackerel salad for breakfast, but he can be a bit extreme)

Ham "sandwich" - sliced ham, spread with philli, plonk a handful of spinach, rocket and watercress salad on it and roll it up.

If you want a good book on cutting the rubbish out of your diet, I'd recommend anything by Mark Sissons. Check out his web site "Marks Daily Apple".

Again, and, yes I know I say this a lot, - there are no right or wrong ways to do this. It's whatever works for you. For every two people who recommend a low carb diet, there'll always be one Who'll shout it down. Read as much as you can. There's a book called Wheat Belly you might want to take a look at too. Lots of diabetics have problems with wheat/gluten.

If you cut the carbs "cold turkey" you may well feel worse before you feel better, so the Low GI approach may be a gentler intro for you. - You may well find that you don't need to go further! - Fingers crossed!!

I'm now going to sit quietly and wait for people to start shooting holes in this post. - Don't follow ANYONE blindly, you need to understand and believe in what you're doing or you won't be able to do it.

Good luck!!x




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- one book I see recommended a lot, but haven't read myself is " Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution ". - Google it. - I think you can read it online.

It's a low carb approach to controlling blood sugar.

Steph


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