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<blockquote data-quote="welshtony" data-source="post: 110786" data-attributes="member: 12179"><p>Hi</p><p></p><p>Before I start, I'm just going to say that I'm not advocating my lifestyle, but as we are similarly aged and sexed, and you have asked one of the questions that was of burning interest to me, when I was diagnosed T2 Aug 2008, I'm passing on my experiences. </p><p></p><p>This forum is great for advice and case studies. But you will soon learn the truism that YMMV (your mileage may vary). We are all different, and even superficial similarities may not be good predictors for others.</p><p></p><p>The question was "can I still drink wine/beer?" Whereas I was (reluctantly) prepared to try and change my diet, and to reintroduce exercise into my life, I was very reluctant to change my complete lifestyle, which has always revolved around far more alcohol than the guideline 28 units for males. I'd say my average would be nearer 50, but spread mainly over Fri-Mon, in line with my general social calendar. </p><p></p><p>I love real ale and good wines, and would like to keep enjoying them as long as I can! But, a pint of ale is about 12g of carbs, versus a glass of dry white at 2gm. So I have changed my balance, and drink more dry white, often diluted with sparkling water, after starting the day/evening on beer.</p><p></p><p>After diagnosis, I soon bought into the lower carb philosophy generally, as I wanted to stay on the "diet and exercise" regime as long as possible, and was actually quite pleasantly surprised to find that alcohol actually has the effect of lowering BG levels. I saw that as a positive! Over the last 15 months, I have managed to:</p><p>- shed a net 2 stone (but am still BMI 35, way to go yet)</p><p>- cut my Hba1c from 7.2 to 5.6</p><p>- work out many foods which spike me (so now, eg, I still often eat chicken kebabs as a weekend meal, but without any bread, and sometimes even eat pizza toppings, leaving teh crust completely!)</p><p>- cut my cholesterol readings down, so I'm almost fully back in the "normal range" (waiting for printout of the last set, relying on dr's phone discussion at present).</p><p>- got my BP readings back to well in the "normal" range (before, they were usually at the high end)</p><p></p><p>BUT. I did have one blip, where I am sure that alcohol did drive me to a hypo. Fortunately I was in the company of good friends who knew my T2 diagnosis, and a bar of chocolate quickly got me back to a sufficiently "sober" state (as far as others who didn't know me were concerned, they just thought I was seriously drunk). I have learned from that, and now always make sure I have had a fairly substantial meal before I go out for more than a couple of pints. </p><p></p><p>I appreciate that a post like this may offend some, and I again stress that I am only passing on my experiences as a case study that may have some relevence to your position. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you test frequently, to ensure that your body reacts in the way you want it to and that you eat and drink the things that help you keep within the guidelines you set for yourself!</p><p></p><p>If you'd like any more details, I'd be happy to chat via PM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="welshtony, post: 110786, member: 12179"] Hi Before I start, I'm just going to say that I'm not advocating my lifestyle, but as we are similarly aged and sexed, and you have asked one of the questions that was of burning interest to me, when I was diagnosed T2 Aug 2008, I'm passing on my experiences. This forum is great for advice and case studies. But you will soon learn the truism that YMMV (your mileage may vary). We are all different, and even superficial similarities may not be good predictors for others. The question was "can I still drink wine/beer?" Whereas I was (reluctantly) prepared to try and change my diet, and to reintroduce exercise into my life, I was very reluctant to change my complete lifestyle, which has always revolved around far more alcohol than the guideline 28 units for males. I'd say my average would be nearer 50, but spread mainly over Fri-Mon, in line with my general social calendar. I love real ale and good wines, and would like to keep enjoying them as long as I can! But, a pint of ale is about 12g of carbs, versus a glass of dry white at 2gm. So I have changed my balance, and drink more dry white, often diluted with sparkling water, after starting the day/evening on beer. After diagnosis, I soon bought into the lower carb philosophy generally, as I wanted to stay on the "diet and exercise" regime as long as possible, and was actually quite pleasantly surprised to find that alcohol actually has the effect of lowering BG levels. I saw that as a positive! Over the last 15 months, I have managed to: - shed a net 2 stone (but am still BMI 35, way to go yet) - cut my Hba1c from 7.2 to 5.6 - work out many foods which spike me (so now, eg, I still often eat chicken kebabs as a weekend meal, but without any bread, and sometimes even eat pizza toppings, leaving teh crust completely!) - cut my cholesterol readings down, so I'm almost fully back in the "normal range" (waiting for printout of the last set, relying on dr's phone discussion at present). - got my BP readings back to well in the "normal" range (before, they were usually at the high end) BUT. I did have one blip, where I am sure that alcohol did drive me to a hypo. Fortunately I was in the company of good friends who knew my T2 diagnosis, and a bar of chocolate quickly got me back to a sufficiently "sober" state (as far as others who didn't know me were concerned, they just thought I was seriously drunk). I have learned from that, and now always make sure I have had a fairly substantial meal before I go out for more than a couple of pints. I appreciate that a post like this may offend some, and I again stress that I am only passing on my experiences as a case study that may have some relevence to your position. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you test frequently, to ensure that your body reacts in the way you want it to and that you eat and drink the things that help you keep within the guidelines you set for yourself! If you'd like any more details, I'd be happy to chat via PM. [/QUOTE]
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