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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 532959" data-source="post: 2670742">Yes! And YES!Fantastic fantasies abound on both sides of the carb/fat, meat/grain and vegan/carni divides. Be wary of any sentence that starts with "We evolved", because that "we" is a disparate bunch of folk, evolving over very long period of time, over very different parts of the planet. Changes can also happen in the 'blink of an eye'. Even if we had only been eating grains for 10k years (500 generations), a much lesser period of time has allowed lactase persistence in various peoples.[URL unfurl="true"]http://plantpositive.com/blog/2012/3/7/tpns-6-a-novel-pitch-for-low-carb.html[/URL]We have evidence going back nearly 200k year of starch-eating (Not long before we unearth evidence going back even further, I suspect), and so ubiquitous was the eating of starch that not only do humans have more starch receptors than our frugivorous cousins, but so do animals that evolved alongside us.[URL unfurl="true"]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31896717/[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.wits.ac.za/news/latest-news/research-news/2020/2020-01/early-modern-humans-cooked-starchy-food-in-south-africa-170-000-years-ago.html[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://elifesciences.org/articles/47523[/URL]'We' were neither carnivores nor vegans. And while we seem to still share many/most taxonomical traits with our frugivorous cousins, behaviourally and evolutionarily-speaking we are/were opportunistic omnivores, with (I believe) the stomach-acid strength of vultures. We would've eaten bugs and practiced both cannibalism and infanticide. So much for the paleo-washing of 'our' evolution....Oh, and fruit doesn't have A season. FRUITS have SEASONS! At such a point as we descended from the trees, we'd have been surrounded by fruit all-year-round. Also, it's not fruit that is the real key to bears being fat enough to survive Winter <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />[URL unfurl="true"]https://bearwise.org/bears-fall-eat-a-thon-is-on-whats-on-the-menu-at-your-house/#:~:text=In%20the%20fall%2C%20bears%20are,and%20hard%20mast)%20are%20available.[/URL]Lastly (and this is conjecture on my part), nobody who had any idea of the realities of starvation would ever choose to be in ketosis.Anyway...good to see such open-minded enquiry. I'll share a link to a blog that does a very deep-dive into evolution, in the context of the current (online/social-media) nutritional narrative(s). It's unashamedly vegan-forward and anti-paleo (or at least the paleo that 'we' are being sold), which might make it intolerable for some. I also don't necessarily subscribe to all that's being shared. However, everything is very well cited and backed-up, and so can provide a good jumping-off point for further research. Each post comes with full transcript and links. However, due to age, there will be many dead links. So you might need to slog through the videos either way <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />[URL unfurl="true"]http://plantpositive.com/[/URL]The most apropos section is 'THE PRIMITIVE NUTRITION SERIES', but there's a lot of fun to be had in other sections <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Have fun!</blockquote>

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