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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chris24Main" data-source="post: 2718694" data-attributes="member: 585131">Good for you [USER=568201]@socks55[/USER]  - excellent work !! We were all taught the same, looking at the history; it's actually a masterclass in delivering a message - there are very few examples of a story taking hold so pervasively. Saturated fat, red meat and salt is bad, m'kay...  I spent 3 years on an aggressive "healthy diet" before being diagnosed ... and actually mis-diagnosed as T1 because it didn't seem possible that I could be T2.. but it was grapes and honey that did it for me. At the time I had this notion that "natural sugars are kind of like a free pass" - I shudder at my own ignorance.Interestingly, if you go back prior to the seventies, the advice was pretty consistent for 150 years prior, that "sugars and starches are fattening".There are - like all facets of life - ways to turn the extremes into conflict; but nearly all nutritional advice which isn't trying to justify old dogma can agree that reducing sugars and starches is common ground...</blockquote>

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