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grohldoll

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Basildon, Essex
Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Hi I have never done this before and am not sure what i am doing all I know is I have type 2 Diabetes and am struggling to regulate my diet. I have periods where I am ok and others where I am still pigging out on bread and butter and chocolate. Everytime I finish eating I feel stupid and guilty but it doesn't stop me doing it again. Just typing this makes me feel silly, I am a 44 year old mum with a 6 year old and a husband so why do I still self destruct?
Sorry if this is not the right place but I am at my wits end and I need to change and am getting more depressed and angry with myself as I struggle so much.

Thanks to anyone that reads my ramblings and again I am sorry for being so silly :)
 
Welcome to the forum, hopefully daisy will be along soon with her advice to new members of the forum :)
 
Hi I have never done this before and am not sure what i am doing all I know is I have type 2 Diabetes and am struggling to regulate my diet. I have periods where I am ok and others where I am still pigging out on bread and butter and chocolate. Everytime I finish eating I feel stupid and guilty but it doesn't stop me doing it again. Just typing this makes me feel silly, I am a 44 year old mum with a 6 year old and a husband so why do I still self destruct?
Sorry if this is not the right place but I am at my wits end and I need to change and am getting more depressed and angry with myself as I struggle so much.

Thanks to anyone that reads my ramblings and again I am sorry for being so silly :)
Don't be sorry and a warm hello , read advise from daisy ....read all you can from many sources only if you want to of course ...
Yes it is all very hard ...a lot to think about ....a thought which springs to mind when reading your thread is that you might like to talk to some one about coping stragies....only a thought ...your GP can often arrange ....
Don't feel angry with yourself you need ways to help,you where you feel positive ....best wishes ..Kat
 
I get period like that the same, where only that carb laiden naughty will do. When I do fall off the wagon, I don't beat myself up I just make sure that I don't use it as an excuse to eat more ( the oh well I've blown it for today/the week/the month syndrome) and get straight back onto the straight and narrow
 
Welcome to the forum, hopefully daisy will be along soon with her advice to new members of the forum :)

Hello grohldoll and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the advice (mentioned above) which we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask plenty of questions and you will get plenty of answers.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome from me.

Please never feel silly for posting your thoughts and feelings. If you are silly, then so are we all. Have a good browse round the forum, post any questions you have. No question is daft if you don't know the answer.
 
What meds are you on, and what blood sugar/HbA1c results have you had?
Do you test yourself with a BG meter.
 
What meds are you on, and what blood sugar/HbA1c results have you had?
Do you test yourself with a BG meter.
I am on 1000mg of metformin twice a day and to be honest I am not sure what my HbA1c was it's a question I will ask next time I see the Dr, I don't test my blood and have never been given the choice. I have had diabetes for a while and feel like I should know more than I do it wasn't until I joined this page I even knew Carbs were bad for me I guess the burying my head in the sand method isn't working for me. I need to lose weight as well as anything else and will read anything anyone wishes to point me towards. It's time to change and start taking care of myself.
 
Hi! You're not silly! I'm a 42 year old mum of a 5 and 6 year old and that is enough to drive us to chocolate some (most?) days!!

It's been a month since my diagnosis and I was really disciplined to start with but I've noticed the last couple if days I've struggled not to give in and pig out. What is keeping me going is still a bit of shock I think and trying to think that this lifestyle is now not a choice but what I've got to do to stay healthy for. Myself and my kids. It is really hard though. Are you building some treats in for yourself? I'm doing LCHF ( but moderate fat) and have a square of dark chocolate or sugar free jelly, berries and cream occasionally so I don't feel too deprived. Using my meter to test my blood sugar 2 hours after eating is also motivating me because I get some satisfaction when it doesn't go too high.

Take it slow and be kind to yourself. Take some time to read and think and try an approach that you think you can manage.

Don't give up. I'm trying not to!!
 
Hi I have never done this before and am not sure what i am doing all I know is I have type 2 Diabetes and am struggling to regulate my diet. I have periods where I am ok and others where I am still pigging out on bread and butter and chocolate. Everytime I finish eating I feel stupid and guilty but it doesn't stop me doing it again. Just typing this makes me feel silly, I am a 44 year old mum with a 6 year old and a husband so why do I still self destruct?
Sorry if this is not the right place but I am at my wits end and I need to change and am getting more depressed and angry with myself as I struggle so much.

Thanks to anyone that reads my ramblings and again I am sorry for being so silly :)
I think it's because carbs :)
the more carbs we eat, the more carbs we want..2hrs after tea and we're starving again and at the fridge...well that was me..I'd open a family block of chocolate and eat it all in 20 min

at first I thought it was crazy..I found you need to replace the carbs with healthy fats and the first week sucks, but then it's good

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
it’s a long page and a video

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm because carbs don’t give up easy.
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

testing
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
food count
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic or better, the gastric surgery rate of ~80% T2 remission
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2010/mar/weight-loss-surgery-and-type-2-diabetes.html

http://diabeticmediterraneandiet.com/low-carb-mediterranean-diet/
http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm
if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
 
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Hi! You're not silly! I'm a 42 year old mum of a 5 and 6 year old and that is enough to drive us to chocolate some (most?) days!!

It's been a month since my diagnosis and I was really disciplined to start with but I've noticed the last couple if days I've struggled not to give in and pig out. What is keeping me going is still a bit of shock I think and trying to think that this lifestyle is now not a choice but what I've got to do to stay healthy for. Myself and my kids. It is really hard though. Are you building some treats in for yourself? I'm doing LCHF ( but moderate fat) and have a square of dark chocolate or sugar free jelly, berries and cream occasionally so I don't feel too deprived. Using my meter to test my blood sugar 2 hours after eating is also motivating me because I get some satisfaction when it doesn't go too high.

Take it slow and be kind to yourself. Take some time to read and think and try an approach that you think you can manage.

Don't give up. I'm trying not to!!
are you getting enough fats? if you feel tired or cold, you need more..if you are craving 2 hrs after eating, cut your carbs more
 
I am on 1000mg of metformin twice a day and to be honest I am not sure what my HbA1c was it's a question I will ask next time I see the Dr, I don't test my blood and have never been given the choice. I have had diabetes for a while and feel like I should know more than I do it wasn't until I joined this page I even knew Carbs were bad for me I guess the burying my head in the sand method isn't working for me. I need to lose weight as well as anything else and will read anything anyone wishes to point me towards. It's time to change and start taking care of myself.

You really need to use a BG meter, then you can see for yourself which foods raise your BS.. There is far more incentive to give them up when you can actually see the numbers rising,
If your doctor won't prescribe one, it's worth investing in your own.
There are various ways to sort your diet out, lower your BS, and lose weight, the trick is finding your right one though.
 
Good advice from Douglas on getting a BG monitor and testing if possible. As he said, there are various ways to sort your diet out but initially, a reduction in carbs would bring immediate results. These include bread, pasta, potato, rice and cereal. There is no need to cut anything out completely but the less of these you eat, the lower your BG levels will be. To avoid going hungry you can eat plenty of fish, meat, cheese, eggs or veg ( assuming no underlying medical condition ). I know it's not easy and you will fall off the wagon occasionally but try to tweak this to suit.
 
You really must do 2 things tomorrow. Ring your surgery and ask for your latest HbA1c result. You can't control this disease unless you know where you are starting from. The second thing is order a meter. Without one you can't learn which foods you can or can't eat. Who knows .... maybe you can eat some bread and butter without raising your levels. That would be a lovely bonus, but you would never know without a meter. @jack412 put a good link up for you to look at
http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm
if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
 
Hi grohldoll and welcome. I posted something similar to you when I found this site in May. Your post really resonated with me. When I joined I'd been on Metformin for a few years, then Gliclazide, but no-one had mentioned not eating carbs to me and I was very much head in the sand about diabetes and felt that I'd been following such a stupid self-destructive path for years - binge eating, eating sugary treats etc.

About 5 years ago I took part in a trial internet course on mindful eating, which helped me make a start on the self-destruct cycle. I learnt to give myself permission to eat what I wanted and not to indulge in the binge/disgust/guilt merry-go-round. Of course there was quite a lot more involved in getting there and you'd have to research it to see if mindful eating is for you, but it's something to think about for that aspect of your (our) problem with food.

I did start slowly losing weight though, without starving myself, feeling deprived, cheating - you can't cheat if you have permission to eat what you want. I started to get my head in gear for eating in a less destructive way. However, this did little for my diabetes.

Then, having been refused an operation as my blood sugar was too high, I found this site and started thinking that low carb might be the way for me. I hit the deck running and went very low carb, but not high fat (not low fat either). It was OK. I wasn't getting cravings. I wasn't hungry (actually I rarely am - it's not why I over-eat). I lost weight. My blood sugar came down. It was great.

Like everything in life there are ups and downs to this. I fall off the wagon. I still occasionally pig out, but I keep going back to low carbing and back to getting my BS under control. My focus has definitely changed to watching the BS, not feeling guilty about food or not losing weight. For me the low carbing is helping me lose weight slowly. Sometimes I go weeks without losing any, but I'm not letting it go back up, so if it's slow then it is was it is. It seems to be a way of working on this diabetes thing that is right for me.

Coming on this site, talking to others and learning that I am not alone is one of the best things to have happened to me. Being open and honest and keeping a diary was my first step (search for I'm Rosie and I'm a carboholic). I also used the My Fitness Pal website to input all my daily food, which helped me learn a lot about carbs. After a lifetime of weight issues I knew about calories, but was ignorant of carb values.

Anyway, sorry for droning on so long - and you thought you rambled! I just felt you needed to know there is life beyond this and you can take control, Best of luck.
 
Hi grohldoll and welcome. I posted something similar to you when I found this site in May. Your post really resonated with me. When I joined I'd been on Metformin for a few years, then Gliclazide, but no-one had mentioned not eating carbs to me and I was very much head in the sand about diabetes and felt that I'd been following such a stupid self-destructive path for years - binge eating, eating sugary treats etc.

About 5 years ago I took part in a trial internet course on mindful eating, which helped me make a start on the self-destruct cycle. I learnt to give myself permission to eat what I wanted and not to indulge in the binge/disgust/guilt merry-go-round. Of course there was quite a lot more involved in getting there and you'd have to research it to see if mindful eating is for you, but it's something to think about for that aspect of your (our) problem with food.

I did start slowly losing weight though, without starving myself, feeling deprived, cheating - you can't cheat if you have permission to eat what you want. I started to get my head in gear for eating in a less destructive way. However, this did little for my diabetes.

Then, having been refused an operation as my blood sugar was too high, I found this site and started thinking that low carb might be the way for me. I hit the deck running and went very low carb, but not high fat (not low fat either). It was OK. I wasn't getting cravings. I wasn't hungry (actually I rarely am - it's not why I over-eat). I lost weight. My blood sugar came down. It was great.

Like everything in life there are ups and downs to this. I fall off the wagon. I still occasionally pig out, but I keep going back to low carbing and back to getting my BS under control. My focus has definitely changed to watching the BS, not feeling guilty about food or not losing weight. For me the low carbing is helping me lose weight slowly. Sometimes I go weeks without losing any, but I'm not letting it go back up, so if it's slow then it is was it is. It seems to be a way of working on this diabetes thing that is right for me.

Coming on this site, talking to others and learning that I am not alone is one of the best things to have happened to me. Being open and honest and keeping a diary was my first step (search for I'm Rosie and I'm a carboholic). I also used the My Fitness Pal website to input all my daily food, which helped me learn a lot about carbs. After a lifetime of weight issues I knew about calories, but was ignorant of carb values.

Anyway, sorry for droning on so long - and you thought you rambled! I just felt you needed to know there is life beyond this and you can take control, Best of luck.


Hi all, as my name suggests I have recently seen the light and am starting to take control of my diabetes! Having had type two diabetes for 13 years and ignoring it apart from popping more and more pills I have just been put on insulin twice a day and am monitoring four times a day, before each meal and before bed and I must say I can't really work it all out yet! I am reading so much about low carbs and it seems common sense but the nhs advice is to include carbs as long as they are not the refined ones. I am really tempted to try low carb but am reluctant to ignore the advice I have been given - please help!
 
Having had type two diabetes for 13 years and ignoring it apart from popping more and more pills I have just been put on insulin twice a day and am monitoring four times a day, before each meal and before bed and I must say I can't really work it all out yet! I am reading so much about low carbs and it seems common sense but the nhs advice is to include carbs as long as they are not the refined ones. I am really tempted to try low carb but am reluctant to ignore the advice I have been given - please help!

Hi New Man, welcome. Where has following NHS advice got you, just more and more drugs and now insulin! Was that good advice? Still reluctant to try low carb? It's never too late to start getting it back under control on you terms. Have a read about low carbing and check out the sigs of those who do, and ask any more questions (maybe on a new thread).
 
Thank you everybody for your support and help I have ordered the blood glucose monitor and will find my HbA1c results when i return to the Drs. I have started to look at what I eat and as soon as I am back from my holiday I will start the low carb diet (with not so high fat). I know the biggest difficulty will be giving up bread and butter but I also know I need to do what I can to get well. My aim is to lower my weight and blood sugars and be able to run around with my son and nieces and nephews. Wish me luck :-)
 
I have purchased the monitor and am taking readings as of Monday, I went a bit mad on holiday and ate a lot more sweets than I should have but am now attempting to get my diet and lifestyle sorted. My reading 2 hours after lunch yesterday as 12.8 and after dinner last night was 7, I was concerned what could have caused the high reading after lunch I had homemade soup, homemade white roll and a banana.
I have a question about the low carb diet, what should I be aiming for? If anyone has any advice about lunches as that is where I struggle most, well that and the fact it seems everything I eat is full of carbs :-(.
Thanks again for all your support.
 
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