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veganlass

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Ive been diagnosed with Diabetes T2 since March last year. First HBA1c was 7.9. I successfully lost weight up till xmas. Losing one stone five pounds. Since then Ive gained 6lbs (Blame xmas) so my last HBA1c was 8.2 . I am fighting medication and if I have to start anything I will insist on Humulin insulin. Tablets are a no no due to side effects and my disability.

I would like to know what everyones opinion on either no treatment or treatment on the present HBA1c result. My next visit to the DSN is april. I cannot seem to shift the 6 lbs of weight I put on and I am fed up of diabetes and diet/constipation ruling my life.
My mother and her sisters were overweight and all (except my mum who died of mouth cancer) live to a ripe old age with no diagnosis of diabetes. I think ignorance is bliss. I have been doing BG (not recently) and they vary between 4.6 pre meals and sometimes 14 post meals.
 
Hi Veganlass and welcome to the forum :) This is the information that we give to new members and I hope that some advice in here will help you to get both your HbA1c and your weight down. This however does not mean that you won't need some form of medication as well in the future.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
If you are spiking to 14 post meals and are a Type 2 diabetic with no long standing other medical issues then I would suggest you are not controlling your carbohydrate intake as well as you think you are.

Spiking to 14 or anything over 7.8 on a regular basis means you are exceeding the level that complications DO start from. Specifically at levels greater than 7.8 you are beginning to damage the blood vessels in the backs of your eyes.

Why not tell us what an average daily food intake is and let others try and help you rather than just dismissing advice out of hand.
 
Hi 'veganlass'. :)

Take some time to have a look around the forum. There are alot posts on diet and recipies, and alot of information about how to achieve good BG levels, and also about medication. Just keep asking questions when you need to and there will always be someone to help you.

Helena
 
Thanks. Its rare I go above 9.5 post meals only occasions I go higher. I have decided to accept insulin as I am sick of this diabetes ruling my life.

I plan Humulin hopefully once or twice a day . I am due to see the DSN in April.
 
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