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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 1152796" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>[USER=41816]@Brunneria[/USER], you are quite correct that storage of fat into cells requires insulin. Sudden weight loss is one symptom that insulin dependant diabtics report when diagnosed. Indeed, there have been many threads on this site where the OP declares that they are witholding insulin in order to control their weight. It is the diabetic equivalent of bulemia. Sadly these posters have a real pride in their weight loss achievements, and try to encourage us to agree and praise them too as if it is a sensible course of action that can be fully justified. Sadly they seem blind to the advice we give to them, and quite often there are reports here and in the press where sadly they took it too far. We should be careful about posting this data without also including warnings that this is a potentially lethal practice.</p><p></p><p>As a T2D, I would have difficulty in suppressing my insulin. I would have to be very sick indeed if my Insulin resistance prevented cell storage of fat or glucogen. That is why I take Metformin, and use an LC diet - to reduce IR. If cell storage is suppressed such that weight cannot be put on, then ketosis will still drop weight and gradually I will waste away. I am not sure this is what happens.</p><p></p><p>There is another mechanism that may be at play. Triglycerides require glycogen, which in turn needs glucose. Suppress glucose by low carbs, then less glycerides are made (in theory ?) so less fat gets made. This may be how lipids reduce on LCHF. But, the processes of gluconeogenesis and lipogenesis normally ensure that minimum glucose is produced even if carb input is zero. So normally fat production is not inhibited even under LC conditions, but there may be other metabolic conditions that interfere with these other pathways.</p><p></p><p>I think the following link is relevant too.</p><p><a href="http://www.dietdoctor.com/what-happens-if-you-eat-5800-calories-daily-on-an-lchf-diet" target="_blank">http://www.dietdoctor.com/what-happens-if-you-eat-5800-calories-daily-on-an-lchf-diet</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 1152796, member: 196898"] [USER=41816]@Brunneria[/USER], you are quite correct that storage of fat into cells requires insulin. Sudden weight loss is one symptom that insulin dependant diabtics report when diagnosed. Indeed, there have been many threads on this site where the OP declares that they are witholding insulin in order to control their weight. It is the diabetic equivalent of bulemia. Sadly these posters have a real pride in their weight loss achievements, and try to encourage us to agree and praise them too as if it is a sensible course of action that can be fully justified. Sadly they seem blind to the advice we give to them, and quite often there are reports here and in the press where sadly they took it too far. We should be careful about posting this data without also including warnings that this is a potentially lethal practice. As a T2D, I would have difficulty in suppressing my insulin. I would have to be very sick indeed if my Insulin resistance prevented cell storage of fat or glucogen. That is why I take Metformin, and use an LC diet - to reduce IR. If cell storage is suppressed such that weight cannot be put on, then ketosis will still drop weight and gradually I will waste away. I am not sure this is what happens. There is another mechanism that may be at play. Triglycerides require glycogen, which in turn needs glucose. Suppress glucose by low carbs, then less glycerides are made (in theory ?) so less fat gets made. This may be how lipids reduce on LCHF. But, the processes of gluconeogenesis and lipogenesis normally ensure that minimum glucose is produced even if carb input is zero. So normally fat production is not inhibited even under LC conditions, but there may be other metabolic conditions that interfere with these other pathways. I think the following link is relevant too. [URL]http://www.dietdoctor.com/what-happens-if-you-eat-5800-calories-daily-on-an-lchf-diet[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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