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high sugar levels

kathyk

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
How do i get my sugar levels down i'm on 2 diaformin tablets twice a day and i cant have insulin and my sugar levels are between 20 and 30 every day.
 
How do i get my sugar levels down i'm on 2 diaformin tablets twice a day and i cant have insulin and my sugar levels are between 20 and 30 every day.

Welcome @kathyk

Can you give us an idea of an average day's food for,you?

I'm going to tag @daisy1 for some basic welcome info
 
uncle tobys oats traditional for breakfast then a sandwich for lunch and dinner as well and i go for a 30 minute walk every day.
 
uncle tobys oats traditional for breakfast then a sandwich for lunch and dinner as well and i go for a 30 minute walk every day.

Walking is very good I'm a big fan of walking myself.

Many Type 2s here find that reducing their carbs can help with controlling their diabetes. Perhaps you could try a slightly different breakfast and lunch to see if that has any effect on your blood sugars?

There's nothing wrong with oats or bread at all, but some people find they have to reduce their portion size or maybe change their meals slightly to get better results.

I'm going to also tag a few Type 2s for you @AndBreathe @catherinecherub @Bluetit1802 @ladybird64 @andcol and I'm sure more will be along later

In the meantime, have a browse round the Type 2 section and the sections about food and diet
 
Hi @kathyk and welcome.
Are you testing your blood sugar levels before and after meals? If there is a substantial rise then the meal will have too many carbohydrates for you.
You do not mention how much protein, fat or vegetables you are eating either. It is difficult to know what is going on without more information. What is your fluid intake like?
Many Type2s have to restrict the amount of carbohydrates that they eat and 4 slices of bread a day is a lot to be consuming.
It is the testing that is the key to how your meals are affecting your blood sugars. You might get better results by cooking a suitable meal rather than relying on sandwiches.
There are plenty of recipes on the forum which will help you.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/food-nutrition-and-recipes.3/
 
@kathyk

Hello Kathy and welcome to the forum Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful in addition to the information from the members tagged above. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
How do i get my sugar levels down i'm on 2 diaformin tablets twice a day and i cant have insulin and my sugar levels are between 20 and 30 every day.

If you test before you eat and again 2 hours after your first bite, keep a food diary and record your levels alongside, you will be able to see what your meals are doing to your glucose levels. This is the only way to find a suitable way of eating. It does seem, from what you say, that you are eating far too many carbohydrates. As all carbs convert to glucose once inside the system we have to be very careful how many of them we eat.

I find that bread sends my levels high, and also cereals, pasta, rice and things made with flour. I also need to be careful which fruits I eat. Some people can manage the odd piece of bread or whatever, but only your meter will tell you whether you can. Your levels are very high, so something must be causing this.

Have a try at testing before and after, record it all, and look at the difference between the before reading and the after reading. You may have some surprises. If you need help with this, tell us what your readings were and exactly what you ate and drank for that meal, then we may have some suggestions.
 
Hi and welcome. Can I ask whether you have tested after the porridge and also after the sandwich. It could be very important to understand what bread you are eating. Burgen linseed and soya is a very low carb bread which seems pretty good for many T2s; whereas white bread is worse than eating several spoonfuls of sugar for some.

Why not try bacon and eggs in the morning instead of porridge and see if that helps. May be greek yoghurt?
 
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