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<blockquote data-quote="Yorksman" data-source="post: 370636" data-attributes="member: 55568"><p>I too had to tell the GP and the DN that I was not prepared to take metformin. " But you've got diabetes, you have to. That's what people who have got diabetes do. They take Metformin. Statistically, you'll live longer."</p><p></p><p>I informed them I have a degree in maths and am fully familiar with modern statistical models of stochastic processes and what they had just told me was nothing more than a circular argument. In addition, if you give people metformin who do not need metformin, any inferences derived are skewed. My GP told me that he had been on a course on diabetes. Further enquiry revealed that he went to a supermarket and looked at the labels on foods. My DN told me that she has an A level in biology so I told her that she would know more about the reproductive cycle of the buttercup than she does about diabetes. The complacency that you encountered is typical. They think everyone they speak to is thick. Roy Taylor, Professor of Medicine and Metabolism at Newcastle University, who is published in diabetes research journals complains about this complacency in Practical Diabetes: </p><p></p><p><em>"It must be recorded that many individuals expressed frustration at the routine manner in which their doctor, nurse or dietitian regarded the diagnosis of type 2 diabetes. This conflicted with the cataclysmic blow which they personally felt. They were told that the diagnosis was clear and therefore the guidelines will be rolled out. Lose some weight and take this metformin. Get used to it."</em></p><p></p><p>The readings that you have done yourself, presumably by finger prick and using capilliary blood are different from the 'average of 7.0 over 12 weeks' that you mention. Your own readings are measurements the blood plasma whereas the latter 7.0 is a measure of the glucose bound to the haemaglobin. My own HBA1c as it is called, 6.5%, is higher than many of my own plasma readings would suggest which range from the 4s to the 6s. Glucose in the blood plasma is taken out and it binds with the red blood cells. </p><p></p><p>However, my original HBA1c was something around 8.9% but I got it down to 6.5% in 8 weeks without any medication, just through watching what I eat, losing weight and doing some exercise. So, you can do it. Many people on this forum have done and, as you are starting from a low base of 7% or 53 in 'new money' you haven't got far to go to get back into the normal range. It is easier for your GP or DN to write out a prescription for metformin than give you lifestyle advice on what to eat, how to lose weight and what sort of exercises you might do. It's real tick box healthcare.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yorksman, post: 370636, member: 55568"] I too had to tell the GP and the DN that I was not prepared to take metformin. " But you've got diabetes, you have to. That's what people who have got diabetes do. They take Metformin. Statistically, you'll live longer." I informed them I have a degree in maths and am fully familiar with modern statistical models of stochastic processes and what they had just told me was nothing more than a circular argument. In addition, if you give people metformin who do not need metformin, any inferences derived are skewed. My GP told me that he had been on a course on diabetes. Further enquiry revealed that he went to a supermarket and looked at the labels on foods. My DN told me that she has an A level in biology so I told her that she would know more about the reproductive cycle of the buttercup than she does about diabetes. The complacency that you encountered is typical. They think everyone they speak to is thick. Roy Taylor, Professor of Medicine and Metabolism at Newcastle University, who is published in diabetes research journals complains about this complacency in Practical Diabetes: [i]"It must be recorded that many individuals expressed frustration at the routine manner in which their doctor, nurse or dietitian regarded the diagnosis of type 2 diabetes. This conflicted with the cataclysmic blow which they personally felt. They were told that the diagnosis was clear and therefore the guidelines will be rolled out. Lose some weight and take this metformin. Get used to it."[/i] The readings that you have done yourself, presumably by finger prick and using capilliary blood are different from the 'average of 7.0 over 12 weeks' that you mention. Your own readings are measurements the blood plasma whereas the latter 7.0 is a measure of the glucose bound to the haemaglobin. My own HBA1c as it is called, 6.5%, is higher than many of my own plasma readings would suggest which range from the 4s to the 6s. Glucose in the blood plasma is taken out and it binds with the red blood cells. However, my original HBA1c was something around 8.9% but I got it down to 6.5% in 8 weeks without any medication, just through watching what I eat, losing weight and doing some exercise. So, you can do it. Many people on this forum have done and, as you are starting from a low base of 7% or 53 in 'new money' you haven't got far to go to get back into the normal range. It is easier for your GP or DN to write out a prescription for metformin than give you lifestyle advice on what to eat, how to lose weight and what sort of exercises you might do. It's real tick box healthcare. [/QUOTE]
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