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<blockquote data-quote="Heathenlass" data-source="post: 761973" data-attributes="member: 84861"><p>I low carb, around 30 - 40g per day have done for many years, and almost never hypo . My last HbA1c was 42 and tends to be around that figure, with one exception. My figures doubled and I gained so much weight when as an experiment I adopted the NHS diabetic dietary advice, on the whole my diabetes control became uncontrolled , using way more insulin then I ever had. My current doses of Levemir are 10 am, 1.5 pm, and Novorapid around 10 units per day . More or less the same as pre NHS experiment.</p><p></p><p>I believe the reason that I rarely hypo is mostly due to finally coming off Lantus, which was totally wrong for me, and the fact that I only need small amounts of insulin because of the low carb. Small doses mean less error for mistakes.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, when I tried the NHS dietry advice, and my numbers and weight spiralled out of control, though it was from being " compliant " I experienced the worst kind of bullying for " non compliance "<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />. Though it was an awful experience, I learned something valuable, in many aspects of my own self care. I know myself better than any HCP , I have lived with this most of my life. I learned that the advice given was a no brainer for me, more carbs= more insulin = more weight gain = more insulin resistance = higher doses = higher doses= more margin for error. I also learned that the bolus advice for carbs did not work for me, no matter what my ratios were, thus a doubled HbA1c in three months. And still, throughout, I had the worst hypos of my life. Lantus was the cause of the hypos, by the additional carbs did not in any way reduce or lessen hypos. Which is why I started the experiment in the first place, as the official advice was that they were caused by the lack of carbohydrate in my diet <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>Previous to this, my levels were great, perhaps too low because of the anomalies caused by </p><p>Lantus, which didn't exist on the older insulins for me. My weight resettled back to my usual lean weight without effort once I stopped the carb intake . Once Lanarus was exchanged for Insulatard, then Levemir, the hypos stopped, I lost the muscle pains, brain fog and other idiopathic symptoms, but that's a whole other story <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm not advocating that low carb is something everyone should do, but to investigate it with an open mind, as there is some hard science behind it. Which is not true for the NHS diabetic dietry advice, which is very, very, flawed. To put it simply, the issues with diabetes, u nwellness, and complications are cAused by blood glucose being too high and the body's inability to cope with it. A high intake of carbohydrate which raises blood glucose further exacerbates the problem and makes it harder to control. Rather than medicate by increasing insulin levels to that what would not be found In a person without diabetes, and starting the whole vicious cycle I described above, it makes sense to me to minimise the cause ( carbohydrates ) and control becomes much easier . </p><p></p><p>So how low in carbohydrates do you have to go to achieve this ? This is where it gets tricky, because it's highly individual, depending on any remaining pancreatic function, lifestyle and just plain tolerance. It's what you have to discover for oneself( speaking as a Type 1 here ) </p><p></p><p>That's my ( long winded!) take on it anyway, I hope it helped answer some of your question <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Signy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Heathenlass, post: 761973, member: 84861"] I low carb, around 30 - 40g per day have done for many years, and almost never hypo . My last HbA1c was 42 and tends to be around that figure, with one exception. My figures doubled and I gained so much weight when as an experiment I adopted the NHS diabetic dietary advice, on the whole my diabetes control became uncontrolled , using way more insulin then I ever had. My current doses of Levemir are 10 am, 1.5 pm, and Novorapid around 10 units per day . More or less the same as pre NHS experiment. I believe the reason that I rarely hypo is mostly due to finally coming off Lantus, which was totally wrong for me, and the fact that I only need small amounts of insulin because of the low carb. Small doses mean less error for mistakes. Ironically, when I tried the NHS dietry advice, and my numbers and weight spiralled out of control, though it was from being " compliant " I experienced the worst kind of bullying for " non compliance ":rolleyes:. Though it was an awful experience, I learned something valuable, in many aspects of my own self care. I know myself better than any HCP , I have lived with this most of my life. I learned that the advice given was a no brainer for me, more carbs= more insulin = more weight gain = more insulin resistance = higher doses = higher doses= more margin for error. I also learned that the bolus advice for carbs did not work for me, no matter what my ratios were, thus a doubled HbA1c in three months. And still, throughout, I had the worst hypos of my life. Lantus was the cause of the hypos, by the additional carbs did not in any way reduce or lessen hypos. Which is why I started the experiment in the first place, as the official advice was that they were caused by the lack of carbohydrate in my diet :rolleyes: Previous to this, my levels were great, perhaps too low because of the anomalies caused by Lantus, which didn't exist on the older insulins for me. My weight resettled back to my usual lean weight without effort once I stopped the carb intake . Once Lanarus was exchanged for Insulatard, then Levemir, the hypos stopped, I lost the muscle pains, brain fog and other idiopathic symptoms, but that's a whole other story ;) I'm not advocating that low carb is something everyone should do, but to investigate it with an open mind, as there is some hard science behind it. Which is not true for the NHS diabetic dietry advice, which is very, very, flawed. To put it simply, the issues with diabetes, u nwellness, and complications are cAused by blood glucose being too high and the body's inability to cope with it. A high intake of carbohydrate which raises blood glucose further exacerbates the problem and makes it harder to control. Rather than medicate by increasing insulin levels to that what would not be found In a person without diabetes, and starting the whole vicious cycle I described above, it makes sense to me to minimise the cause ( carbohydrates ) and control becomes much easier . So how low in carbohydrates do you have to go to achieve this ? This is where it gets tricky, because it's highly individual, depending on any remaining pancreatic function, lifestyle and just plain tolerance. It's what you have to discover for oneself( speaking as a Type 1 here ) That's my ( long winded!) take on it anyway, I hope it helped answer some of your question :) Signy [/QUOTE]
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