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<blockquote data-quote="Heathenlass" data-source="post: 762787" data-attributes="member: 84861"><p>You are welcome <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Do I eat any carbs at all ? Oh yes ! I eat like a horse, but less elegantly possibly <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> The fact is, there are carbs in just about everything. And the food groups that are not carbohydrate, protein , and to an extent fat, will convert to glucose ( glucogenesis) along the digestive process, albeit more slowly. The difference is with low carb is that there is far more control over the blood glucose levels than eating carbs can ever be, even in a non diabetic. There is a far less sharp and pronounced spike in post prandial levels, so less of a slump ( hypo) later on. To go off track a little, the advice given is not to test one or two hours post meal, but to test before the next meal and add a correction dose of needed. The problem , or rather problems with this is the you firstly have no idea what those post meal levels are - how high and what foods cause this effect. A second problem is that between meals, your glucose levels will probably be higher than they should be ( evidence - if you need a correction dose, your bloods have been running highball of the time since your last meal. So, that's everyday. Over a long period of time. </p><p></p><p>I can suggest you try a wee experiment- after eating toast, or a sandwich and fruit, test one hour, then two hours after eating. If you are happy with those numbers, ( taking into account you will still have some insulin on board ) then no problem <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> If they are higher than you would like, then you can make some adjustments to your diet.I don't like the word " remove" as it suggests a kind of self denial and deprivation, but yes, if they give you unacceptable spikes, they will need to be substituted. The good news is, the substitutions are downright delicious , healthier by far, and go a long way in gaining good control. This is a sample of my day :</p><p></p><p>Breakfast : Chia seed porridge with flaked almonds, two slices of toast made with my own home made ( dead easy !) low carb bread spread with marmite and seriously strong cheddar spread. Sometimes I substitute the chia porridge with full fat Greek yoghurt and blueberries if my disorganised self forgets to make the porridge up in advance <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>10 am. snack: 9 bar original .</p><p></p><p>Lunch : home made veg soup, more low carb bread at 3g per slice, yogurt if not eaten at breakfast. Slice ( ummm, large chunk , lol ) of cheddar.</p><p></p><p>Afternoon snack: another 9 bar ( because I like them. A lot !<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> ) </p><p></p><p>Dinner: Cauliflower crust pizza, or curry and cauliflower rice, veggie sausage and cauliflower or celeriac mash made with cream cheese, followed by sugar free jelly, blueberries and cream.</p><p></p><p>Evening snack : hot chocolate made with cocoa, boiling water, spoonful of stevia and topped up with cream, with one bar of Aldi 85% dark chocolate . .</p><p></p><p>Actually, reading back though this I realise I sound like a right glutton,<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> I have to say though that I work outdoors in a demanding job, so burn a lot of calories <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> And I know that all that cream and cheese sounds unhealthy by the standard dietry advice, but my cholesterol numbers are spot on, even taking in to account the Great Cholesterol Controversy anyway ( another example of flawed " science" that I won't go in to here <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> As for my weight, I'm a lean, mean Diabadass <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I would recommend Trudi Deakin's "Eat Fat" as an introduction to low carb , there are links in the Low Carb forum if you are interested <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Oh and please don't be put off by the multiple mentions of cauliflowers in my post- they are really versatile, and a diabetics best friend as far as substitutions go <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> But I hold my hand up that I may be rather more enthusiastic about them than most <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Signy the pig <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Heathenlass, post: 762787, member: 84861"] You are welcome :) Do I eat any carbs at all ? Oh yes ! I eat like a horse, but less elegantly possibly :D The fact is, there are carbs in just about everything. And the food groups that are not carbohydrate, protein , and to an extent fat, will convert to glucose ( glucogenesis) along the digestive process, albeit more slowly. The difference is with low carb is that there is far more control over the blood glucose levels than eating carbs can ever be, even in a non diabetic. There is a far less sharp and pronounced spike in post prandial levels, so less of a slump ( hypo) later on. To go off track a little, the advice given is not to test one or two hours post meal, but to test before the next meal and add a correction dose of needed. The problem , or rather problems with this is the you firstly have no idea what those post meal levels are - how high and what foods cause this effect. A second problem is that between meals, your glucose levels will probably be higher than they should be ( evidence - if you need a correction dose, your bloods have been running highball of the time since your last meal. So, that's everyday. Over a long period of time. I can suggest you try a wee experiment- after eating toast, or a sandwich and fruit, test one hour, then two hours after eating. If you are happy with those numbers, ( taking into account you will still have some insulin on board ) then no problem :) If they are higher than you would like, then you can make some adjustments to your diet.I don't like the word " remove" as it suggests a kind of self denial and deprivation, but yes, if they give you unacceptable spikes, they will need to be substituted. The good news is, the substitutions are downright delicious , healthier by far, and go a long way in gaining good control. This is a sample of my day : Breakfast : Chia seed porridge with flaked almonds, two slices of toast made with my own home made ( dead easy !) low carb bread spread with marmite and seriously strong cheddar spread. Sometimes I substitute the chia porridge with full fat Greek yoghurt and blueberries if my disorganised self forgets to make the porridge up in advance :rolleyes: 10 am. snack: 9 bar original . Lunch : home made veg soup, more low carb bread at 3g per slice, yogurt if not eaten at breakfast. Slice ( ummm, large chunk , lol ) of cheddar. Afternoon snack: another 9 bar ( because I like them. A lot !:p ) Dinner: Cauliflower crust pizza, or curry and cauliflower rice, veggie sausage and cauliflower or celeriac mash made with cream cheese, followed by sugar free jelly, blueberries and cream. Evening snack : hot chocolate made with cocoa, boiling water, spoonful of stevia and topped up with cream, with one bar of Aldi 85% dark chocolate . . Actually, reading back though this I realise I sound like a right glutton,:D I have to say though that I work outdoors in a demanding job, so burn a lot of calories ;) And I know that all that cream and cheese sounds unhealthy by the standard dietry advice, but my cholesterol numbers are spot on, even taking in to account the Great Cholesterol Controversy anyway ( another example of flawed " science" that I won't go in to here :rolleyes: As for my weight, I'm a lean, mean Diabadass :D I would recommend Trudi Deakin's "Eat Fat" as an introduction to low carb , there are links in the Low Carb forum if you are interested :) Oh and please don't be put off by the multiple mentions of cauliflowers in my post- they are really versatile, and a diabetics best friend as far as substitutions go :D But I hold my hand up that I may be rather more enthusiastic about them than most :D Signy the pig :D [/QUOTE]
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