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How long for my BG levels to stabilise?

Johnboy59

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Diagnosed a week ago. BG was 20.7 a week ago. Lowest was this morning at 12.3

How long will it take for the levels to get to a normal level?

I'm dropping around a point a day taking my readings first thing each morning.
 
Hi John

Thats a fab reduction.

can't remember how long mine was but my starting point wasnt as high as yours.

think you're doing brilliantly , be patient young luke it took you years to get them that high!!!


Mary x
 
Johnboy59 said:
Tis very hard... Love my food and all the bad stuff!! But I guess I love my life (and wife) more. :roll:


lol - dont let the mrs see she got bracketed!

it'll be worth it in the long run -

Mary x
 
yep - it is for some people - ( I got my worst ever reading from porrdige)

Some people are lucky enough to handle a small amount.

There is lots of rubbish advice out there, if you want to minimise the meds you'll need your best bet is to 'eat to your meter' , with you saying your numbers had come down so well I assumed you were doing some of that.

Have you tested yourself 2 hours after porridge?

Mary x
 
Unfortunately, porrdige isn't your friend.

you could test again in the evening see if it's as bad - weird this diabetes - some people can handle more carbs later in the day

OR

Try IanD's (i think) porridge made with oats and ground almonds - 20g ground almonds and 10g oats (i think the figs right pls correct me someone), mix with milk and heat

nice alternative if you think you can't live without it -

Mary x
 
Hi John boy! Dieticians and the NHS love to recommend porridge for some reason, but for most diabetics it's a no-no. You need to test in a planned way. Here's what I did:-
In general terms you will need to reduce the total number of carbohydrates you eat per day. All carbohydrates turn to sugar when we eat them, and no type 2 diabetic on diet only, or on diet and metformin only, can control their blood sugars (BGs) without controlling their carb intake. Even those on strong medication normally choose to control their carb intake to keep the level of medication they take down. The total number of carbs per day you can eat depends on how advanced your diabetes is. It’s perhaps worth starting at about 50% of normal levels for a non-diabetic then adjusting up or down according to how you get on. So that means eating 150 grams of carbs per day for a man, 125 for a woman. You can read the total carb content of food under “nutritional info” on the packet or wrapping, or look it up on the internet for loose food. Just google “carb content..”
You also need to stop or reduce the bad carbs; that is the starchy ones that make your BG go up quickly.
So obviously no sugar or glucose! But also no white bread, white rice, pasta, flour products like pastry, cake and batter. You can eat a little basmati rice, wholewheat pasta or the tri-color pasta fusilli ones in small quantities. Boiled new potatos (again not too many) are OK but not old pots mashed, boiled or in their jackets. (Roast is not so bad, the fat slows their absorption and conversion to glucose in the blood) Amongst other veg, parsnips are about the worst for BG, and carrots not great but ok in smaller amounts.
Multi grain bread (not wholemeal) is not SO bad, but lots of us eat Burgen soya and linseed bread from tescos and sainsburys, although all bread should be in limited amounts.
All fruit has carbohydrates, and needs to be included in the amounts of carbs you eat in a day. For most people, bananas are about the worst for pushing our BG up and berries (like strawberries, raspberries etc) are the least bad.
No sweeties!
Exercise is important. I tend to exercise about an hour after eating when I know my BG will be peaking. This helps to bring it down quicker and further. I do ten minutes hard work on an exercise machine, but you could run up and down stairs for ten minutes or go for a brisk walk.
Returning to types of food and quantities of carbs - you can only find out how many you can eat by testing. Most type 2’s are not given access to testing equipment, so you should get your own – although try arguing with your Doc that you want to manage to NICE guideline blood sugar levels, and can’t do that without testing! If you have to buy a meter, they are cheap and most manufacturers will give them away for free. They make their money on the strips you have to use! So go for the meter with the cheapest testing strips. The SD Codefree available on the internet is about the cheapest at the moment. Some people test before and after eating, on waking (fasting test) and before bed. But if you have limited strips because of cost, the key to me is testing 2 hours after eating. If your BG is above, say, 7.8 at that stage, you need to cut down on the carb content the next time you have that meal. Test after various different meals and you soon get to see a pattern of what you can and can’t eat, and in what quantities. Keep careful records of what you ate and when, together with the result, so you can refer back at a later date. You can then reduce your testing. I said “below, say, 7.8” because NICE guidelines are below 8.5 but most of us think that’s a little high. 7.8 is the max. level at 2 hours after eating that a non-diabetic normally gets to so is perhaps a better target. Some then set progressively lower targets.
Do ask lots of questions; there is normally an answer on here. The more you get to learn about your diabetes, the better it will be.
Good luck!
 
Hi. I think Grazer has explained much about food and diets. The problem with porridge is that in many ways it is a good food i.e. it has fibre etc. Problem is what is good for a'normal' person may not be good for us as we have a problem handling glucose and porridge oats are just another carb. The GI isn't too bad so I have home-made muesli but only a small quantity each day. The problem with DUK, the NHS etc is that they assume a 'healthy diet' (whatever that really is) is the same for everyone. They still don't understand that we are glucose intolerant and they continue to worry about keeping our fats and salt low even though we may be sensibly tolerant of those. So as others have said 'eat to your meter' as that's a scientific approach and not based on myths and hearsay. Test 2 hours after a main meal when you can as a morning test can be confused by the liver dumping glucose overnight.
 
Thank you all very much for your replies - I must say it is incredibly confusing. I'm giving up trawling the internet as so much of the advice is totally conflicting. I feel as fit as a fiddle which is another confusing issue. The only symptoms I seem to have had was thirst (which has now completely gone) and feeling tired mid afternoon (also now much better).

Just trying really hard to get the readings normal. 20+ down to 12.3 in less than a week is pretty good I guess.
 
If you enjoy a hot breakfast cereal, this is what I make and it is quite satisfying.

4 tablespoons of Milled Flaxseed, 2 Packets of Truvia (stevia) sweetener, 1 teaspoon of cinnamon and milk. I heat it in the microwave. Allow for a 'thinnish' mixture because flax tends to soak up the milk and get *****. Anyway, low in carbs, high in omega3 and tastes pretty good to. I also make a dried cereal out of flaxseed and psyllium that works well in milk.

Bacon, eggs and a bowl of flax 'porage' is a great breakfast.

For lunch, many times I have a large garden salad with either tuna or chicken and a dressing of either mayo or olive oil and a little balsamic

dinners of salmon, broccoli, sweet potatoes baked with cinnamon sprinkled on and green iced tea w/stevia sweetener is a winner. Baked or fried chicken again with basic veggies is good.

for snacks I have walnuts... creme fresh and blueberries .... 50gr of organic peanut butter with 15 grams of nutella and celery (nutella can effect some people and the combination of the two is about 15 grams of carbs so you need to test.

Anyway, I know that it is hard to cut loose grains, sugars and starches but if you put together some low carb meals and try to eat meals and snacks, while testing for a few days, you should be able to see what you can achieve fairly quickly.


Good luck
Kenny
 
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