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<blockquote data-quote="Winnie53" data-source="post: 1478246" data-attributes="member: 160246"><p>Okay, now that I've hopefully restored at least some of my credibility here...hopefully... I'd like to speak to the push back against the ketogenic diet...</p><p></p><p>Do all diabetics need to be on the ketogenic diet? No, absolutely not.</p><p></p><p>That said, for those of us who live with severe insulin resistance, who did not know about the low carb high fat diet until our diabetes had progressed and worsened over many years, the ketogenic diet is reversing complications and restoring health.</p><p></p><p>I facilitate a diabetes support, education, and walking group. Now in my mid-50's, up until recently, I was the youngest member of the group. Our oldest member is in their mid-80's.</p><p></p><p>Of the 10 members associated with our group, 4 have been hospitalized in the last 60 days. Me for vertigo, two for a life threatening, hypertensive episode, and one for eye surgery. The middle two, who had been doing well over the past year, had taken on new responsibilities and hadn't been following the diets that had worked for them as closely as normal.</p><p></p><p>And to top that, I got a call this week from an old acquaintance who has diabetes, had been eating poorly recently, and landed in the hospital with a life threatening infection (and high glucose levels). I knew the acquaintance had diabetes, but was led to believe it was well controlled.</p><p></p><p>I've been on the ketogenic diet alternating with periods on the low carbohydrate diet for 27 months. My peak weight was 180 pounds, my current weight is 145 pounds, so I have more weight to lose. Just doing it slowly. A1c was 9.9% at diagnosis, 5.4% when last checked.</p><p></p><p>If I have one cookie, or one small slice of pizza, my glucose level will hit 180 - 200 mg/dL (7.9 - 8.6 mmol/L). At those levels, if sustained over time, the body is being damaged. Thankfully, the human body is amazing, and much of that damage can be undone with diet, thoughtfully chosen nutritional supplements, and physical exercise, but diet is foundational.</p><p></p><p>You can't exercise your way out of diabetes as shown again and again by athletes and you can't supplement your way out of it either (though you can use physical activity to knock down a high glucose level and you can use supplements to treat nutritional deficiencies due to a variety of causes).</p><p></p><p>Yes, do talk here about the diet and strategies that work well for you, but please refrain from discouraging anyone from doing the ketogenic diet.</p><p></p><p>The original poster may do fine on the low carbohydrate diet with additional adjustments or may need to do the ketogenic diet for a period of time. Don't know. It's best to keep all options open. Eating this way is different <em>but not in any way a sacrifice</em>, but it does take time and effort to learn, more easily done with support from you all here.</p><p></p><p>The food I eat on the low carb and ketogenic diet is far better in every way than what I used to eat. It's healthy, tastes great, and is very satisfying - (so long as I can have my paleo muffin made with almond flour once a week. Some old habits die hard). <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winnie53, post: 1478246, member: 160246"] Okay, now that I've hopefully restored at least some of my credibility here...hopefully... I'd like to speak to the push back against the ketogenic diet... Do all diabetics need to be on the ketogenic diet? No, absolutely not. That said, for those of us who live with severe insulin resistance, who did not know about the low carb high fat diet until our diabetes had progressed and worsened over many years, the ketogenic diet is reversing complications and restoring health. I facilitate a diabetes support, education, and walking group. Now in my mid-50's, up until recently, I was the youngest member of the group. Our oldest member is in their mid-80's. Of the 10 members associated with our group, 4 have been hospitalized in the last 60 days. Me for vertigo, two for a life threatening, hypertensive episode, and one for eye surgery. The middle two, who had been doing well over the past year, had taken on new responsibilities and hadn't been following the diets that had worked for them as closely as normal. And to top that, I got a call this week from an old acquaintance who has diabetes, had been eating poorly recently, and landed in the hospital with a life threatening infection (and high glucose levels). I knew the acquaintance had diabetes, but was led to believe it was well controlled. I've been on the ketogenic diet alternating with periods on the low carbohydrate diet for 27 months. My peak weight was 180 pounds, my current weight is 145 pounds, so I have more weight to lose. Just doing it slowly. A1c was 9.9% at diagnosis, 5.4% when last checked. If I have one cookie, or one small slice of pizza, my glucose level will hit 180 - 200 mg/dL (7.9 - 8.6 mmol/L). At those levels, if sustained over time, the body is being damaged. Thankfully, the human body is amazing, and much of that damage can be undone with diet, thoughtfully chosen nutritional supplements, and physical exercise, but diet is foundational. You can't exercise your way out of diabetes as shown again and again by athletes and you can't supplement your way out of it either (though you can use physical activity to knock down a high glucose level and you can use supplements to treat nutritional deficiencies due to a variety of causes). Yes, do talk here about the diet and strategies that work well for you, but please refrain from discouraging anyone from doing the ketogenic diet. The original poster may do fine on the low carbohydrate diet with additional adjustments or may need to do the ketogenic diet for a period of time. Don't know. It's best to keep all options open. Eating this way is different [I]but not in any way a sacrifice[/I], but it does take time and effort to learn, more easily done with support from you all here. The food I eat on the low carb and ketogenic diet is far better in every way than what I used to eat. It's healthy, tastes great, and is very satisfying - (so long as I can have my paleo muffin made with almond flour once a week. Some old habits die hard). ;) [/QUOTE]
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