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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 1478325" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>It is not clear who your remarks are being made about in your last 2 postings here, but one or two things are clear from what the OP has told us. Firstly they are following David Cavan, who is an advisor for this site (DCUK)</p><p><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/contributors/dr-david-cavan/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes.co.uk/contributors/dr-david-cavan/</a></p><p> but he is also followed on the DUK site too.</p><p><a href="https://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/reverse-your-diabetes-dr-david-cavan.55224/" target="_blank">https://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/reverse-your-diabetes-dr-david-cavan.55224/</a></p><p>Most of his work was on T1D management, but he has written about managing T2D in Reverse Your Diabetes. Now I have not read this book myself but a scan on google does not show it to be a ketogenic diet. It is sold on Amazon, and not one person who posted a review there mentions keto. I do find it to be a Low Carb diet and it is recommended by DUK, again a pointer to it not being a keto diet</p><p></p><p>There is nothing the OP said that suggests their aim as being to go full keto either. Looking through the rest of the thread I do not see anyone who has said DO NOT DO KETO, but there are posts that suggest that an LC diet such as Paleo (which I think Cavan has used as the basis for his recipes) does not need to be full keto for them to work. A Paleo diet is not HF in the same way as LCHF, so this may explain the energy fade reported by OP, but again at 30 g carbs / meal then if one assumes 3 meals per day then this is 90g a day, which may preclude keto anyway. But the OP may be like me and only have one main meal a day,</p><p></p><p>The OP is having difficulty getting lower carb intake at the moment due to energy fade when exercising, So when someone like you comes on the board to mandate keto as being the only real solution to consider may be just as harmful as a Naysayer. It is a bit like those on insulin who tell me I have to be on it too since I may be T1 or T1,5 not T2.</p><p></p><p>I have no problem with you providing advice to the OP to maybe consider a full keto diet, or ways they could tweak their existing diet, I think most of us here have been doing that in our own ways, and there is more than one way to skin a cat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 1478325, member: 196898"] It is not clear who your remarks are being made about in your last 2 postings here, but one or two things are clear from what the OP has told us. Firstly they are following David Cavan, who is an advisor for this site (DCUK) [URL]http://www.diabetes.co.uk/contributors/dr-david-cavan/[/URL] but he is also followed on the DUK site too. [URL]https://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/reverse-your-diabetes-dr-david-cavan.55224/[/URL] Most of his work was on T1D management, but he has written about managing T2D in Reverse Your Diabetes. Now I have not read this book myself but a scan on google does not show it to be a ketogenic diet. It is sold on Amazon, and not one person who posted a review there mentions keto. I do find it to be a Low Carb diet and it is recommended by DUK, again a pointer to it not being a keto diet There is nothing the OP said that suggests their aim as being to go full keto either. Looking through the rest of the thread I do not see anyone who has said DO NOT DO KETO, but there are posts that suggest that an LC diet such as Paleo (which I think Cavan has used as the basis for his recipes) does not need to be full keto for them to work. A Paleo diet is not HF in the same way as LCHF, so this may explain the energy fade reported by OP, but again at 30 g carbs / meal then if one assumes 3 meals per day then this is 90g a day, which may preclude keto anyway. But the OP may be like me and only have one main meal a day, The OP is having difficulty getting lower carb intake at the moment due to energy fade when exercising, So when someone like you comes on the board to mandate keto as being the only real solution to consider may be just as harmful as a Naysayer. It is a bit like those on insulin who tell me I have to be on it too since I may be T1 or T1,5 not T2. I have no problem with you providing advice to the OP to maybe consider a full keto diet, or ways they could tweak their existing diet, I think most of us here have been doing that in our own ways, and there is more than one way to skin a cat. [/QUOTE]
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