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How often should I test BG?

Sukaren

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Could someone clear up a bit of confusion, I was told by my diabetic doctor to take my BG 2/3 times a week(when first diagnosed it was daily) I have since heard it should be between 4/7 times daily, what should I be doing Im T2? utterly out of my depth here! The nurse says one thing the doctor says another and then the dietian says yet another!!!!!!!!!


Sorry to be a pain.
 
Well, I am not a doctor, just another diabetic. And I may confuse you further.

This is purely my opinion, based on my own experience.

When we first received our brand new blood glucose meter the majority of us were told by our doctor or qualified diabetes educators to test, at most, twice daily - before breakfast, also known as "fasting" and before the evening meal. Some, not many, of us were also told to test occasionally two hours after meals.

The "us" I speak of are the thousands of newly diagnosed type 2's I've met in cyberspace over the past four years. Over that time, in three diabetes usenet newsgroups, eight Yahoo diabetes newsgroups and a couple of others via the web, I have never met anyone who was told by their doctor to test one hour after every meal or snack. In fact I've only recently met a few who were advised to test one hour after any meal at all.

So, why do I recommend that we should? Well, I must admit - it wasn't my idea; I learnt it from Jennifer and her Test,test,test advice: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
I also learnt from Derek Paice and his e-book Diabetes and Diet
http://www.mendosa.com/DiabetesAndDiet.pdf

Any test is wasted if it neither informs nor confirms some information. The tests prescribed by your medics are designed to help them assess your progress, to assist in their decisions for your treatment - but they do very little to help you personally manage your diabetes. The doctor wants to see your "static" numbers, not the ones that might be very high or low as a result of the carbs you ate, or ignored, at your last meal.

And that's why I add those one-hour post-prandial (after-eating) tests - they help me directly. They are the "dynamic" numbers that showed the direct effect of the food I ate and the exercise I did. I call them one-hour, but the real term should be "peak" or maximum "spike"; mine is one-hour but you'll have to find your own.

I don't think the timing of the spike is as important as it's peak level and duration.

Think about it logically. Why would a spike of 10(180) affect you any differently if it occurred at 30, 60, 90 or 120 minutes? It's duration would be a factor - but post-prandial timing of the actual peak should be irrelevant. It still got to that peak, no matter when it occurred.

So, I learned to find my peak. That is slightly different, but reasonably predictable, with different foods and meal mixtures. Drinks, like OJ, spike me very quickly within 30 minutes and drop just as quickly. Which is why some people use them as hypo treatment. Starchy carbs, without much fat, will spike me in 30-45 minutes. But add fat - and it's about 60 minutes. A normal meal combining moderate fat, protein and low GI carbs leads to a peak at 45-75 minutes for me, and so on. That's why I settled on using the 1hr post-prandial test as my guide, but I occasionally do a 30 minute one if the food was low-fat and high-GI.

As to whether a brief spike causes damage - not enough research has been done. There appears to also be a possibility that spikes have a damaging effect at lower thresholds for type 2 than type 1, partly from anecdotal discussions I've followed over the past five years and partly from the slight differences in results in studies like the DCCT and UKPDS. Let's face it - only type 2 have beta cells to lose anyway. Therefore I am swayed by the reports here, on Jenny's excellent web-page: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045678.php "Research Connecting Organ Damage with Blood Sugar Level". There is enough evidence to convince me that staying under 8(140) is worth the effort - no matter when it occurs:

Of course, I tend to always aim a little tighter, so these days I set the level at 7(126) for my one-hour post-prandial maximum. What you do is up to you.

Alan, T2, Australia

Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter
 
Phew!!!!!!!!!! thanks for the info, I did not realise you had to get a degree to manage this disease!!! but I appreciate your time writing it down for me, I'll try and get my head around it.
 
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<br />Phew!!!!!!!!!! thanks for the info, I did not realise you had to get a degree to manage this disease!!! but I appreciate your time writing it down for me, I'll try and get my head around it.
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Oops - I didn't mean to send you into information overload:-)

To be honest, I wrote it down a while ago for people just like you. I'm basically lazy and I found that, over time, I was repeating the same things in different words to newly diagnosed people. So I gradually collected some of those answers and put them on my blog, so that I can save myself a lot of typing.

No degree needed. In my case it was a combination of my own need to learn how to beat the beast and the coincidence of my retirement. That gave me the time to read everything I could find on the subject for at least two hours a day for nearly six years. And then to put into practice what worked for me.

What you need is persistence and the willingness to learn, not a degree:-)

Your body, your science experiment.


Alan, T2, Australia

Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter
 
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