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hubby just diagnosed with type 2

raindancer33

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Hi

My husband (he's 38) was diagnosed two weeks ago with type 2 diabetes, his fasting level was 19. We were shocked as we have been fobbed of by the gp for over a year that there was no way he was diabetic but finally she tested him.

He's been on metformin for 10 days now, the first week one tablet a day and now two a day.

The diabetic nurse has now decided he has to take one 80mg gliclazide a day too as his glucose levels are coming down quick enough.

Have joined here in the hope that other people can give us tips of how they manage their diabetes as we are doing our best but feel like we're failing.
 
Welcome to the Forum. Have you been to see a dietician yet ?

Ken and I put together some basic advice for new diabetics which we hope helps to start to understand how to begin to control your Diabetes.

The most important thing is to get a blood testing monitor and strips so that you can test ( as below) and see what the food you are eating is doing to your blood sugar levels. if the GP/HCP said you do not need to test then this is wrong ! It is the only way to start with that you will be able to lower your Bg levels, medication will only do so much, controlling your dietary intake of carbohydrates goes a long way to getting to grips with Diabetes.

If they will not give you a meter then buy one. The meters can also be sourced from the relevant companies who make them, usually for free especially if you tell them you will be testing 7-8 times a day. Here is a link to our pages on blood meters.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care ... guide.html


Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Sue/Ken.
 
Hi Sue, thanks for replying.

We haven't seen a dietician yet nor has one been mentioned. He has only seen the diabetic nurse. Reading this I have a good idea where we are failing... carbs! he still takes sandwiches to work(6 rounds of bread). The diabetic nurse didn't mention lower carbs she said a reduced calorie diet. So we switched to splenda, sugar- free juices and have had no treats whatsoever.

I feel really stupid now as it seems obvious now you've said it, will cut down the carbs.

HE does have a monitor to check his levels and we do check them alot, more so at weekends as during the week he works an afternoon shift (2-10:30) hence why he takes sandwiches for tea. Will have to figure out an alternative for that. We found that after a pasta meal his level didnt change much so I presume that's an indicator that he can maybe still have that?
 
Pasta is a tricky one. Pasta is a slow release, complex carb so his levels may actually go higher after two hours, it is worth checking three and four hours after to double check. Some can eat pasta with no effect but others can't.

Try making up something in a container that he can eat instead of the sandwiches. This is where a good carb counter book comes in handy. You look up all the things he does like then work out what he can have from there. Portion control is also vital.....6 rounds of sandwiches ! The bread would be sending his levels sky high !

If he can get into the habit of checking his Bg level just before a meal then two hours later and noting down the readings along with what he ate you will soon work out a menu of things that have less impact on his Bg levels and his levels should come down. Be careful with the Gliclizide as it can cause a hypo, Bg below 4, which can feel very unpleasant.
 
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