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<blockquote data-quote="Ojustaboo" data-source="post: 1954002" data-attributes="member: 460243"><p>Hi all, I know it was wrong to do what I did, but I will probably do it again next Christmas, and probably if I go on holiday this year.</p><p></p><p>I have numerous health issues, getting Type 2 was the icing on the cake so to speak, in fact the reality is, when I was told, I smiled and said something else to add to the list.</p><p></p><p>I've been following a strict LCHF diet for a while now and have seen very good results</p><p></p><p>I did take a couple of days off a while back (see this thread)</p><p><a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/taking-a-couple-of-days-off-from-type-2-life.158073/" target="_blank">https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/taking-a-couple-of-days-off-from-type-2-life.158073/</a></p><p></p><p>but have been good apart from that.</p><p></p><p>My last checkup, the nurse was ecstatic at how well I'd done, weight down, cholesterol down, fatty liver down, resting heartrate normal (was fast for years).</p><p></p><p>Everyone said how they bet I felt much better, everyone was 100% wrong.</p><p></p><p>OK obviously the blood results speak for themselves, my body was appreciating the loss of weight/diet, but I had just as much (if not more) pain, my CFS/ME is just as bad etc etc etc.</p><p></p><p>And I always said that come Christmas, I'm taking a week off and am going to enjoy myself, eating the food I like, not going to weigh myself or check my blood until after Christmas.</p><p></p><p>9th July I was 120kg (18st 12 oz) 48" waist</p><p>21st Dec I was 96.6 kg (15st 3lb), haven't measured waist since Nov when it was 40"</p><p></p><p>So I stopped my diet. I didn't go stupid, or not nearly as stupid as the rest of my skinny as a rake like family went.</p><p></p><p>The amount of chocolate and sugary sweets my wife and son both ate, well I doubt I could have kept up with them if I tried.</p><p></p><p>Sure I had a few celebrations, a walnut whip, Lindt Santa etc.</p><p>And I ate potatoes, gravy, peas every day.</p><p>I also had one part baked stick of bread every lunchtime (I still had no breakfast every day)</p><p>And I had milk in my coffee.</p><p></p><p>It was all pure heaven. I'm sorry but I disagree with those who say after you've not had them for ages, they will taste funny or too sweet etc, they tasted just like I remembered them.</p><p></p><p>But I didn't go mad. A bread stick for lunch, cooked potatoes and veg with cold Turkey or ham for dinner and a few sweets in between. One bottle of Speckled hen an evening. But I was also making sure I didn't go too mad, didn't put honey on the ham this year when we roasted it etc.</p><p></p><p>I only checked my blood once, we checked the whole families (bearing in mind they had all stuffed their faces with 10 times the sugar/carbs I had)</p><p></p><p>Wife: 5.8</p><p>Daughter 4.6</p><p>Son 5.4</p><p></p><p>Me, highest ever reading of 9.4</p><p></p><p>So I decided not to measure my blood until after my break is over, I know this sounds stupid, but with all my other health problems, my way of thinking is if I cant enjoy a few days over Christmas, whats the point.</p><p></p><p>Today I weighed myself for the first time since 21st Dec, I expected to have put on a bit, maybe 1/2 stone, what I didn't expect was how much weight I managed to put on in this 10 day period.</p><p></p><p>21 Dec 96.6kg, 15st 3lb</p><p></p><p>Today (2nd Jan 2019) , 107.1kg, 16st 12lb</p><p></p><p>So in those 10 days I put on a massive 1st 9lb and again, while a bottle of beer a day and a part baked stick might sound excessive to some, compared to the amount I used to eat at Christmas, I ate very very little.</p><p></p><p>It was a bit of a shock to be honest, although I'm back on the LCHF so will soon lose it.</p><p></p><p>So how do I interpret that. By interpreting, I mean the following.</p><p></p><p>I really didn't eat that excessively, sure I ate chocolate that in a normal week, before I had type 2, I would not normally eat (except Easter/Christmas).</p><p></p><p>Sure I had a part baked stick everyday for lunch, that's 150g of bread, which is nothing compared to the amount of bread I ate before I ended up type2.</p><p></p><p>And sure I treated myself to 1 Speckled Hen or Hobgoblyn a day, again in my pre type 2 days that would have been at least 3 a day.</p><p></p><p>So, lets presume it's not Christmas, I've got down to my ideal weight and I come off my LCHF diet. No chocolate, so that isn't going to be a factor at all.</p><p></p><p>Based on the last 10 days, it feels like if I start having small amounts of bread , pasta, potatoes, peas etc and maybe 3 or 4 bottles of beer on a Sat night, I will put weight on before I blink and my sugar levels will be off the scales.</p><p></p><p>Which sort of backs up my theory that you can't ever reverse Type 2, you can only put it in remission, and can only keep it in remission if you never start eating normally (as in peas, potatoes, bread etc) .</p><p></p><p>Just taken my blood for the first time since before Christmas, and it's 5.3.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ojustaboo, post: 1954002, member: 460243"] Hi all, I know it was wrong to do what I did, but I will probably do it again next Christmas, and probably if I go on holiday this year. I have numerous health issues, getting Type 2 was the icing on the cake so to speak, in fact the reality is, when I was told, I smiled and said something else to add to the list. I've been following a strict LCHF diet for a while now and have seen very good results I did take a couple of days off a while back (see this thread) [URL]https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/taking-a-couple-of-days-off-from-type-2-life.158073/[/URL] but have been good apart from that. My last checkup, the nurse was ecstatic at how well I'd done, weight down, cholesterol down, fatty liver down, resting heartrate normal (was fast for years). Everyone said how they bet I felt much better, everyone was 100% wrong. OK obviously the blood results speak for themselves, my body was appreciating the loss of weight/diet, but I had just as much (if not more) pain, my CFS/ME is just as bad etc etc etc. And I always said that come Christmas, I'm taking a week off and am going to enjoy myself, eating the food I like, not going to weigh myself or check my blood until after Christmas. 9th July I was 120kg (18st 12 oz) 48" waist 21st Dec I was 96.6 kg (15st 3lb), haven't measured waist since Nov when it was 40" So I stopped my diet. I didn't go stupid, or not nearly as stupid as the rest of my skinny as a rake like family went. The amount of chocolate and sugary sweets my wife and son both ate, well I doubt I could have kept up with them if I tried. Sure I had a few celebrations, a walnut whip, Lindt Santa etc. And I ate potatoes, gravy, peas every day. I also had one part baked stick of bread every lunchtime (I still had no breakfast every day) And I had milk in my coffee. It was all pure heaven. I'm sorry but I disagree with those who say after you've not had them for ages, they will taste funny or too sweet etc, they tasted just like I remembered them. But I didn't go mad. A bread stick for lunch, cooked potatoes and veg with cold Turkey or ham for dinner and a few sweets in between. One bottle of Speckled hen an evening. But I was also making sure I didn't go too mad, didn't put honey on the ham this year when we roasted it etc. I only checked my blood once, we checked the whole families (bearing in mind they had all stuffed their faces with 10 times the sugar/carbs I had) Wife: 5.8 Daughter 4.6 Son 5.4 Me, highest ever reading of 9.4 So I decided not to measure my blood until after my break is over, I know this sounds stupid, but with all my other health problems, my way of thinking is if I cant enjoy a few days over Christmas, whats the point. Today I weighed myself for the first time since 21st Dec, I expected to have put on a bit, maybe 1/2 stone, what I didn't expect was how much weight I managed to put on in this 10 day period. 21 Dec 96.6kg, 15st 3lb Today (2nd Jan 2019) , 107.1kg, 16st 12lb So in those 10 days I put on a massive 1st 9lb and again, while a bottle of beer a day and a part baked stick might sound excessive to some, compared to the amount I used to eat at Christmas, I ate very very little. It was a bit of a shock to be honest, although I'm back on the LCHF so will soon lose it. So how do I interpret that. By interpreting, I mean the following. I really didn't eat that excessively, sure I ate chocolate that in a normal week, before I had type 2, I would not normally eat (except Easter/Christmas). Sure I had a part baked stick everyday for lunch, that's 150g of bread, which is nothing compared to the amount of bread I ate before I ended up type2. And sure I treated myself to 1 Speckled Hen or Hobgoblyn a day, again in my pre type 2 days that would have been at least 3 a day. So, lets presume it's not Christmas, I've got down to my ideal weight and I come off my LCHF diet. No chocolate, so that isn't going to be a factor at all. Based on the last 10 days, it feels like if I start having small amounts of bread , pasta, potatoes, peas etc and maybe 3 or 4 bottles of beer on a Sat night, I will put weight on before I blink and my sugar levels will be off the scales. Which sort of backs up my theory that you can't ever reverse Type 2, you can only put it in remission, and can only keep it in remission if you never start eating normally (as in peas, potatoes, bread etc) . Just taken my blood for the first time since before Christmas, and it's 5.3. [/QUOTE]
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