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<blockquote data-quote="Mbaker" data-source="post: 2373366" data-attributes="member: 256617"><p>Are your kidneys actually damaged, as the label proteinuria is indicates protein leaking out of the kidneys, this is different to high levels of protein due to consumption and no damage.</p><p></p><p>The AMDR is 10–35% of caloric intake as protein (Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Range), <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347101/" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347101/</a> this is often forgotten, with the lowest level of 10% to stay alive being cited. It is so unfortunate that protein has been sidelined when if this is preferenced good things happen.</p><p></p><p>The upper limit on patient access is 7.8, mine is 8.4 and has been higher. The ranges are reference ranges based on averages.....of people eating the standard societal diets which tend to be circa 60% plant based high carb. Just as with Keto / Carnivore diets other items such as LDL goes up in around 33%, the bottom line is are you healthy.</p><p></p><p>What is your GFR (cystatin-C is great if you can get this when meat based <a href="http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/testing-kidney-function-using-an-alternative-filtration-marker/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/testing-kidney-function-using-an-alternative-filtration-marker/</a>). If your eGFR is high (lowest normal 60) then higher urea levels may not indicate kidney issues (mine 67, this time last year 68 (diabetes damaged my kidneys and high protein has made it no worse). </p><p></p><p>On Bernsteins protocol, I would try and contact him as a long standing Type 1, failing that someone like Dr Paul Mason, in the UK Dr David Unwin or Dr Trudi Deakin; it has to be meaningful to seek the opinion of those with clinical practices.</p><p></p><p>This is my urea graph:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]47813[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I suspected animal based dieting creates the results you and I have seen:</p><p>A quick Google shows:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]47815[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>As this is a measurement outside of the norm, it is inappropriate to state definitives. It would be useful for other high protein / carnivores to chime in if they have numbers. I am not worried, as I am seeing nothing going on with my kidneys despite high meat and fish.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mbaker, post: 2373366, member: 256617"] Are your kidneys actually damaged, as the label proteinuria is indicates protein leaking out of the kidneys, this is different to high levels of protein due to consumption and no damage. The AMDR is 10–35% of caloric intake as protein (Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Range), [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347101/[/URL] this is often forgotten, with the lowest level of 10% to stay alive being cited. It is so unfortunate that protein has been sidelined when if this is preferenced good things happen. The upper limit on patient access is 7.8, mine is 8.4 and has been higher. The ranges are reference ranges based on averages.....of people eating the standard societal diets which tend to be circa 60% plant based high carb. Just as with Keto / Carnivore diets other items such as LDL goes up in around 33%, the bottom line is are you healthy. What is your GFR (cystatin-C is great if you can get this when meat based [URL]http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/testing-kidney-function-using-an-alternative-filtration-marker/[/URL]). If your eGFR is high (lowest normal 60) then higher urea levels may not indicate kidney issues (mine 67, this time last year 68 (diabetes damaged my kidneys and high protein has made it no worse). On Bernsteins protocol, I would try and contact him as a long standing Type 1, failing that someone like Dr Paul Mason, in the UK Dr David Unwin or Dr Trudi Deakin; it has to be meaningful to seek the opinion of those with clinical practices. This is my urea graph: [ATTACH=full]47813[/ATTACH] I suspected animal based dieting creates the results you and I have seen: A quick Google shows: [ATTACH=full]47815[/ATTACH] As this is a measurement outside of the norm, it is inappropriate to state definitives. It would be useful for other high protein / carnivores to chime in if they have numbers. I am not worried, as I am seeing nothing going on with my kidneys despite high meat and fish. [/QUOTE]
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