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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 2572928" data-attributes="member: 196898">There is nothing magical about the ND diet.  It is a bog standard weight loss regime that has been in common use since the 60's in the form of Slimfast (and Optifast), and these diets are still going strong.  Neither of these plans were associated with diabetes and were not generally a goto for diabetes treatment.  The glucose reduction is noted as a 'can reduce' in the literature, but no claims for remission were made till ND was published with the altered definition and free use of the term.  The claims for remission are peculiar to ND followers but are unproven as being a long term solution for Type 2  diabetes.The only thing that Taylor did prove was an association between pancreatic fat and the treatment using the MRI scanner.  He also attempted to to show first phase insulin response recovery, but his methodology and mathematics are extremely suspect for this aspect, and I do not accept his explanations.I do not pooh pooh  the valuable contribution he has made to diabetes treatment, since what he offers is a useful tool but it is not a cure.  And there are other pathways to achieving remission (as he defines it).  I have not exceeded the 48 HbA1c in 7 years now, and I did not do the ND plan.  But I am happy for others to try it so long as they are given the information to make an informed choice regarding  the long term success rate, which seems to require two or more passes through the mincer,</blockquote>

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