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moe.

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Hi
I was told 10 days ago that I have type 2, at first I was on metformin but couldn't take it due to a bad tummy so I have now been given Gliclazide 30mg and that was it off you go, he will arrange for me to see a dietician but waiting list are long so he says.

So after reading post on here I have purchased an Accu-chek today.
I did my bloods at 3pm it was 6.8 I had a good meal (stew) and tested again at 5pm two hours later 9.2 is this very high ? can anyone educate me please,
I am feeling very down I hate not having control.

Moe
 
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I was told 10 days ago that I have type 2, at first I was on metformin but couldn't take it due to a bad tummy so I have now been given Gliclazide 30mg and that was it off you go, he will arrange for me to see a dietician but waiting list are long so he says.

So after reading post on here I have purchased an Accu-chek today.
I did my bloods at 3pm it was 6.8 I had a good meal (stew) and tested again at 5pm two hours later 9.2 is this very high ? can anyone educate me please,
I am feeling very down I hate not having control.

Moe[/QUOTE]
Hi @moe. Have a look at the chart on this page......
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

9.8 is not massively high but you don't want to be that high too often or for too long.

What did hou eat with the stew, did you have a lot of spuds?

Don't get too down, it's manageable with the right approach but you have to keep learning. We all keep learning.
 
Hi Thanks for the reply yes I did have a few spuds in it and one round of wholemeal bread.
 
Hi Thanks for the reply yes I did have a few spuds in it and one round of wholemeal bread.
Hi and welcome to the forum. It was probably the potatoes and bread that increased your number. Bread, rice, potatoes and pasta and tropical fruits like bananas melon pineapple peaches are best avoided as they are all very high carbohydrates and carbs turn to sugar. This doesn't mean you will never eat them again but you need to get to a good level before you re try them. It's surprising how easily you get used to not eating them and sugar
 
i thought I should eat wholemeal as its slow release I just don't understand what I should eat should I just eat meat and veg ?
 
i thought I should eat wholemeal as its slow release I just don't understand what I should eat should I just eat meat and veg ?
Meat & veg are good but so are cheese, eggs, fish especially oily fish like salmon & mackeral (fresh & tinned) , 97% meat sausages, chicken, butter instead of spreads, full fat dairy products..(o.low fat options contain sugar) pate, home made soups & casseroles. There is a baking thread with lots of yummy recipes also have a look at the 'what have you eaten today' thread for ideas, try some of the recipes on the recipe thread. You will eat really well once you get the hang of it and your bs will lower. Being diabetic takes time to adjust to, read as much as you can and read some old threads it will all help you understand
 
Hi @Moe,

Welcome to the forum. I'll tag @daisy1 so she can give you the forum welcome pack. It's all very scary when you're first diagnosed, and basically left to get on with it. Do you have a Diabetic Nurse or Nurse Practitioner attached to your GP surgery? If so, get yourself an appointment with them do you can discuss how your diabetes will be managed. I can recommend reading through the information on the forum, so you can educate yourself about everything from diet tips to work related issues. Just take your time to look around as all of the new information can feel overwhelming initially. I guarantee that in a few months, you'll feel much more confident about how you manage your diabetes, & will be offering your support and advice to other Newbies. Good luck & good health. Keep your chin up.

AJ. X
 
Hi. Did the GP try you on Metformin SR (Slow Release)? If not it would have been worth trying. Gliclazide has a different action from Metformin, the latter helping if you have excess weight. As others have said you reading aren't bad so just keep the carbs down a bit. Although wholemeal flour is better than white and absorbed more slowly, almost as much is taken into body as glucose so overall, treat it as just another carb. BTW if you do see a dietician be aware that many of them don't understand diabetes and diet and there are many posts where completely the wrong advice has been given by the dietician.
 
Just avoid high carbohydrate/sugary food and use your meter to test before and 2 hours after meals, and you'll begin to see what your body can handle carbohydrate wise - not everyone can eat all the same foods! urbanracer has given you the link to recommended glucose levels, so you need to aim for these figures, and also try to keep any rise (spike) in levels after meals to under 2mmol/L.

Meats, fish, eggs, nuts ,dairy produce (butter, cheese, cream, full fat yoghurt) , most vegetables (except maybe root ones) and some lower sugar fruits (e.g. berries) are all fine to eat. Contrary to normal advice, foods containing fats and oils are particularly good for diabetics because they contain fewer or even no carbohydrates to raise our glucose levels.

Robbity
 
I agree with this - it might be worth trying Metformin SR instead of Gliclazide and then using Gliclazide only if you can't have the Metformin SR. You might want to ask your doctor for a printout of your blood test results, as the HbA1c result will tell you how good or bad the diabetes is currently. The good news is that with the right diet most people can eventually get that level down into the non-diabetic range. Usually they do other blood tests at the same time as HbA1c and that info is handy too, such as cholesterol levels. You should have blood tests again in 3 months... don't let them fob you off with 6 or 12 months just yet.
 
I used to feel down as well. Don't overlook it and overcome it hardly. You can eat meal and veg together, get you into a healthy diet plan. You will control it.
 
@moe.

Hello Moe and welcome to the forum You have had some very useful answers above from members who all want to help you. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @moe. welcome to the forum, your readings are not too bad. just need to watch the carbs that you eat. I have been buying the Burgin bread from Asda and also liv life bread from waitrose, i found eating these breads , my BS did not go as high when i was eating white bread, Vegetables and fish are very good to eat, if you like rice, they suggest that basmati rice is lot better for you,

Do you have Diabetic Nurse and what were your reading when you were diagnosed??.
 
Hi Moe,

I'll just add that I was diagnosed a few months ago, still learning myself, bought myself a meter and my 1st reading was 20.3.... So your 9.2 after a meals was much better than where I was, but still a little bit high (but you've only just started so no worries).

Still after avoiding spuds, bread, pasta and rice (for my first 2 months) I'm now hoovering about the 6.5 range and I've lost weight, as I've been out walking for 20mins each day, so all good. I also had to switch from normal Metformin to the Slow Release variety as was rushing to the loo too much and its worked for me. The other thing I've done is have breakfast (I was always WAY too busy before to have time for it) now everyday either real porridge oats or a quick fry up eggs and bacon, no bread...

The other thing I'd say is giving things up and changing isn't easy, occasionally I've had a curry, eaten chips, but its been like once a fortnight, I know I have to make all these changes, but I'm also not a saint, so I've allowed the odd kink in the road... I've also been to poundland and tesco's and bought some Dextrose tablets (for when I've felt a bit weak) and had one or 2 just to perk me back up.

We are all different so there isn't a one size fits all on what works best for us all, but you've found the best support group here on this site and you're on the right path, good luck and let us know how you get on
 
When I was first diagnosed three weeks ago I was 24.5! I didn't know that was high . For the last four days I've been in single figures but ystrdy I had a wee slip. Dread to think what it will be today. I check once a day morning before food
 
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