flakey rascal
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- Messages
- 43
- Location
- Gloucester
- Type of diabetes
- Prediabetes
- Treatment type
- Diet only
- Dislikes
- Being told i can no longer eat my favourite food
Well, you can expect a rise in BG if you eat carbs - in this case the bread in the sandwich - because that's what carbs do. It's not a spike in my book as it's perfectly normal and happens to everyone, non-diabetics included. The question will be how long the rise lasts, and what your BG level will be after two hours. And then you'll have to decide whether that's acceptable to you.I got my warning of prediabetes on 10th January at 44mmol. I was 16 stone, now down to 14 stone 7 lbs. I just recieved a 10 day trial from Dexcom. My reading is 6.1 mmol, so i think that is on a good range. Thanks to this forum i have learned so much.
I am looking forward to see what spikes i get with a sandwich. I am hoping it is good as i like an egg sandwich.
I walked into town. For a bit of research, i had a Greggs sausage roll. I was 4.9 before i ate. It went to 6.9 and within 2 hours it was steadily climbing down to 5.5. 3 hours later i am at 5. I realise that Greggs is a bit of a waste, as there is little nutrition and not the best use of carbs. I was interested to see though. You never know when you get stranded on the M5 service station.Well, you can expect a rise in BG if you eat carbs - in this case the bread in the sandwich - because that's what carbs do. It's not a spike in my book as it's perfectly normal and happens to everyone, non-diabetics included. The question will be how long the rise lasts, and what your BG level will be after two hours. And then you'll have to decide whether that's acceptable to you.
I thought you were going to say a free trial with Abbotts Ale at first. I would be up for thatworth noting abbots do a free trial with libre
I thought you were going to say a free trial with Abbotts Ale at first. I would be up for that
I may well have this wrong, and I'd be happy to stand corrected,I walked into town. For a bit of research, i had a Greggs sausage roll. I was 4.9 before i ate. It went to 6.9 and within 2 hours it was steadily climbing down to 5.5. 3 hours later i am at 5. I realise that Greggs is a bit of a waste, as there is little nutrition and not the best use of carbs. I was interested to see though. You never know when you get stranded on the M5 service station.
I am new to this as well, so i am not sure. The app is set between 3.9 and 14 mmol , and warns me if too high or low. It was set at that by dexcom, although i think i can change it. I assumed they are acceptable ranges?I may well have this wrong, and I'd be happy to stand corrected,
but from what I've read as a T2 newbie, occasional, irregular, and
not inordinately excessive spikes should not be a concern for T2s.
This is assuming that the spike doesn't remain so for an extended
period of time, and that BGLs return to "normal" based on one's usual,
acceptable parameters.
That would be acceptable to me in one sense in terms of BG, but it would seem to me to be a substantial rise for only a small bit of food, so not something I'd choose to do. You'll come to your own conclusions.I walked into town. For a bit of research, i had a Greggs sausage roll. I was 4.9 before i ate. It went to 6.9 and within 2 hours it was steadily climbing down to 5.5. 3 hours later i am at 5. I realise that Greggs is a bit of a waste, as there is little nutrition and not the best use of carbs. I was interested to see though. You never know when you get stranded on the M5 service station.
Yes, Greggs was a waste of time to be honest, but as i said, i was just interested in how it would affect me.That would be acceptable to me in one sense in terms of BG, but it would seem to me to be a substantial rise for only a small bit of food, so not something I'd choose to do. You'll come to your own conclusions.
If you're going to test for beer, you need to note that alcohol will generally lower BG values. It seesm to do this by interfering with the liver adding glucose to your system. So you may get artificially low readings after alcohol, that don't reflect the carbs you've actually eaten. I don't usually bother testing at all if I've had any alcohol with food, as it skews the results too much and you can't really judge how well you've handled the carbs.
"... i have no idea if i still have some insulin that is helping me." This jumped out at me - I thought you said you are pre-diabetic?
Ah right. You will probably have tons of insulin, probably far too much. That's fairly classic for those who of us are T2 /no longer have normal blood glucose levels. It's difficult to say, as the NHS doesn't regularly test T2s for insulin levels, so most of us (I'm one) have no idea what our insulin levels are or were. But if we were producing no insulin, that's T1 territory, not T2. The practical effects would be very different.Yes, Greggs was a waste of time to be honest, but as i said, i was just interested in how it would affect me.
I never tested the beer. The noodles i had started rising to 8.5 about 45 minutes after i thought it had peaked, as it went down, then back up. It was too late for me too test.
Yes, i was told i was prediabetic, but i am not sure if i caught it in time, so no clue what is happening. I really don't know how it works.
Ahh.thank you. I was under the impression that i had no- to low insulin. I assume that is why a prediabetic can control it easier than a T1 with diet, as we have it, but need to sort of tell it to work with low sugar, glucose? I aalso ssume a prediabetic is basically T2, but caught in time to lessen the damage, but still need to treat as full type 2?Ah right. You will probably have tons of insulin, probably far too much. That's fairly classic for those who of us are T2 /no longer have normal blood glucose levels. It's difficult to say, as the NHS doesn't regularly test T2s for insulin levels, so most of us (I'm one) have no idea what our insulin levels are or were. But if we were producing no insulin, that's T1 territory, not T2. The practical effects would be very different.
Insulin resistance is usually described as the body having plenty of insulin, but the cells becoming resistant to its effects, so glucose doesn't get stored as readily and therefore stays in the blood stream for longer than it should. This drives the body to produce more and more insulin to get the glucose stored away, which drives further insulin resistance. The low carb way of eating is intended to interrupt that process by reducing the demand for insulin, and therefore helps to make us a bit more insulin sensitive. That means the body is both dealing with less glucose (because fewer carbs are being eaten) and it's more efficient at using its own insulin. Result in my case (and in others) was lower blood glucose levels within weeks and weight loss over the months and years following. For me that meant and means sustained low carb eating.
High levels of insulin for long periods can also cause problems of itself - it does a lot more than assist in the processing of carb/glucose.
You're spotting some of the methods that manufacturers use to hide carb - "zero sugar" may be technically true but does not always mean "zero carb".Thanks. The has explained it so much better. As you said, there is so much disinformation, it is hard to know what is what. I remember in the 80`s that diabetes was no problem as Holsten Pils had you covered as there was no sugar. Good times to be a diabetic then. Obviousy now we know it is not true. I believed it until i realised virtually no lager had sugar, but loads of carbs. Pils is slightly better than most lager, but not by a lot
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