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If someone else suggests it's all my fault...

Discussion in 'Diabetes Soapbox - Have Your Say' started by lesleyr284, May 12, 2009.

  1. deadwood2

    deadwood2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hana, I needed a laugh, and that provided it! Ta.

    It's funny, though, what people perceive as rules and sequiturs(sp?) - e.g. you're fat so you were asking for it, you're not allowed to eat that.

    Mrs Deadwood2 is now on a final warning for failing to distinguish between "not allowed" and "choose to" in respect of Magnums. Darker the better. :)
     
  2. Henry W

    Henry W · Member

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    I know 3 people who are most definitley not overweight and are diagnosed type 2. I myself was diagnosed in 2007, and I admittedly was overweight. 18.5 stone and 6ft tall. However, I had been complaining for years about my low blood pressure and slow heart rate, 50bpm at rest. BP 105/45.

    I was then reminded by my eldest sister that when I was born in 1956 I was suffering from a condition called Ketone Acidosis, I was not allowed any sugar, low fat diet, no milk, etc. Research on the web told me that this leads to inevitable weight gain in middle age, and lo and behold, inevitable Type 2 Diabetes by middle age. My GP has since done some more research and confirmed that even if I had lived the healthiest life style and was never overweight, it would have not made any difference, I would have become Type 2 and will inevitably become Type 1. There was nothing I could have done to prevent it.

    I am now down to 16 stone. Walking an average of 7 miles a day, dogs and golf afterwards. My BP remains 105/45, my at rest pulse 50bpm. However HBAc1s are 6.2, cholesterol 3.9, it was only 5.1 when I was diagnosed, suggested by GP that I take Statins, when I asked why, he then changed his mind and said I did not need to as my cholesterol was normal.

    Taking Metformin 500mg and diamicron 30mg once a day.
     
  3. Graham1441

    Graham1441 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi,
    I remember telling my mother two yeas ago that i was type 2 and she said "Oh you dont want that"
    Ok I said I will go and see the doctor again and give it back.????????
    If only.

    Graham1441 :twisted: :twisted:
     
  4. inwales

    inwales · Well-Known Member

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    I am off statins now after 3 months, my cholesteral is 4.2.
    I guess docs are used to giving pills and patients not asking questions?
     
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    tenko2004cc · Newbie

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    If you took a look at me you wouldnt think anything was wrong with me. I am athletic, toned and muscular, I rarely drink and eat very healthily. I have type 2 diabetes and now on metformin 2x500mg per day. I have inherited mine from my mother. My father had a history of high blood pressure and guess what, I have hypertension which is also controlled by ramipril 5mg per day. The general public have been mind set into believing that only fat people and those that eat chips or are too lazy to get off thier arse and do something about it is totally wrong!!! :evil: Anybody can have this, it all depends on family history and genetic makeup. I say let them point fingers and in years to come when they or one of their's contracts it the smile can be on your face. $%** them!
     
  6. hanadr

    hanadr · Expert

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    My cholesterol is 3.4 HDL 1.9, LDL1.2 TRIGs 0.6
    and my GP has just increased my statin from 20mg to 40mg. I wonder what he'll say when I finally tell him I'm not taking it?
     
  7. lionrampant

    lionrampant · Well-Known Member

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    You know, I'm all for patient choice but c'mon - stop wasting our money by having us pay for drugs you're not taking! :p
     
  8. Graham1441

    Graham1441 · Well-Known Member

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    I was gineb Statins and they caused so much pain in my feet it was almost impossable to walk so i stopped taking them to.
    Graham1441 :twisted: :twisted:
     
  9. inwales

    inwales · Well-Known Member

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    Glad I am off the statins, got my Cholesterol down to 4.2 shocked the DN!!

    I was getting pains in my feet too. It does pay to take control of your life!
     
  10. Dalekkiller

    Dalekkiller · Active Member

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    I'm definitely feeling much better since my GP told me to stop taking Ezetrol (ezetimibe) although I'm dreading what the consultant will say at my review at the end of September. It's often hard to know who's right about these things, my GP isn't a specialist but his decision made me feel better. I guess my test results will make things clearer. I'm just dreading being told I've got to take another drug just so my results will conform to their ideal.
     
  11. CS80

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    I haven't had this personally. I used to cycle 80 miles in a day, I currently go to the gym and do weights, and although I am a bit overweight I am quite fit. I am T2, with hypertriglyceridemia- the doc said it was very likely to be hereditary due to the high levels. All under control now, but I think if some ignorant pillock said it was my fault I would probably give 'em a Glasgow Kiss! They wouldn't say it again! :lol:
     
  12. copepod

    copepod Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    As most cases of diabetes, particularly type 2, are a result of a combination of genetics and environment / behaviour, it's NOT "all your fault", but environment / behaviour probably did play a part - and someone who did exactly the same as you, but had different genetics, might not get type 2 diabetes. Please note, I don't have anyone in mind when I say "your", just that I can't bring myself to impersonate Princess Anne by saying "one's". Environment in this case covers all sorts of things that happen to a person eg viruses, weather, vitamin D intake etc, some of which have been implicated in type 1. Environment has been called "all that isn't me" in contrast to genetics.
     
  13. hanadr

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    Dalekiller
    You might get those numbers down by cutting carbs, either, by reduced carb diet or by reduced portions, whichever suits you best.
     
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    I think I caused diabetes to catch me early by my lifestyle, after all I was an obese crappoholic eating takeaways, crisps and all that lovely junk. I was sort of condemned even beforehand since from my mother's side 6 of my close relatives have type 2 and from father's side 3 so I was given no hope for not getting t2. it's too late to contemplate how long it would've been etc so I'm just getting on with my life getting my weight down and bloodsugars under my watchful eye and actually I'm healthier and feel better than in years!!!!!!! :twisted:
     
  15. MrsMoo

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    What gets me is I had all this with smoking! Yes I started that habit mainly because of peer pressure at a very young age but I kicked it in into touch (eventually) only to end up with getting the very same 'leper' treatment for diabetes. Since so many of us people obviously agree on this one how come so many judge us wrongly so much? I have only been diagnosed T2 for a few weeks and am already tired of the attitude towards me and that I am sorry to say is ONLY from health ''professionals'' as I have not spread the word and after reading this item I doubt I ever will spread it either. Why don't more people learn not to judge a book by its cover!
     
  16. copepod

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    Any ex-smoker has my admiration - I never started, so never knew the difficulty of giving up.
     
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    valattrevear · Well-Known Member

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    Mrs. Moo, I used to get the same treatment from health care providers until I learnt to smile sweetly at the advice givers, be they at the COPD clinic or the diabetes clinic, and ask what they would be doing if patients were all perfect and healthy? On some occasions I even suggested alternative jobs, but it was never appreciated :twisted:
    Val
     
  18. MrsMoo

    MrsMoo · Member

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    Maybe wearing a T-shirt with some kind of statement each time I visit them would help? :wink:
     
  19. Dalekkiller

    Dalekkiller · Active Member

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    ROFL I think I'll wear my "normal people scare me" t-shirt at my review this month.
     
  20. itsnotmyfault

    itsnotmyfault · Newbie

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    it has been countless times i have heard it said to me.But yesterday it came from my dad and my mum has left so he is my only support we had a bit of an argument and it resulted in him saying 'we wouldnt of had to if you hadent of got diabetes'. making me feel like it was my choice to get it...and i dont know what to do. :(
     
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